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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. omegaman7

    omegaman7 Senior member

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    A 10Tb drive would be the shiznit. I suspect it'll be at least 5 - 10 more years for that though. And no doubt it'll be SSD technology. Although there are Holographic versatile discs (standard cd size) that hold 1 - 10Tb. And that's been around a little while. We sure can be clever LOL!

    I always have this little gem running. I've been lucky to (Out of habit/instinct) look at it, when certain instances arise. Slowdowns, hard drive clicking, etc. So far, the slowdown hasn't shown itself to be a background process that eats up resource...

    Probably end up backing off my overclock, and see how it does for a few days ;)

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    10TB mechanicals are likely to appear, but that'll probably be about the limit of mechanical advance. By that time solid state drives are likely to be quite competitive.
     
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    The reviews for the WD20EARS are a bit rough.
    WD20EARS
    I think I'd rather take my chances and spend a little more on the:
    WD2001FASS
     
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    Loads of HDDs come DOA from newegg, from any brand. just seems a problem with land based shipping over such distances.
    The WD2001FASS, apart from being horrendously expensive, is a flagship Caviar Black drive, so very noisy. Bear in mind also that the WD20EARS drives are as-standard, new technology drives, so they won't work as operating system disks unless re-jumpered, and they won't work with old operating systems like Windows XP, also unless re-jumpered. The majority of people who buy PC parts are idiots remember (sad but true), so they'll give the drive one egg for it 'not working' on grounds like that. The same applies to the WD2001FASS, but its flagship status and high price tag will put such people off, so the percentage of people who know what they're doing when they buy the drive will be far higher.

    Believe it or not there's an ISP in the UK that charges more, and makes the pricing structure very complicated just to keep out people who don't understand internet, to make their lives much easier and prioritise their network for people who use it properly :p
     
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    LOL! Valuable points. I've had very good RMA experience with WD, so I guess I can trust that they'll do the right thing, should the need arise ;) It would just be unfortunate, if I come close to filling the drive, and losing it all. 2Tb worth of data would definitely bring a tear to my eye ;)
     
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    I get the feeling that the black drives have a different quality control process. Why do the green drives only have a 3 yr warranty?
     
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    3 years is pretty standard, most drives only come with a 5 year warranty. Black drives are as I say, the premium product, so some of them come with 5.
     
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    Clearly I'm reading too much into it LOL! I'm gonna have to give one a shot. If it makes it through the long format process, chances are good, I have a survivor ;)
     
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    On another note, this is the worst score i've seen a HDD get! I'm not very good at interpreting this information, but it does look like the drive is close to failing. I'm curious what you guys think of this. Its a 120Gb Fujitsu from an Xbox 360. The program that is capable of reading the drive (Xplorer360), cannot read one of the partitions. Probably due to damaged/unreadable sectors. It appears to be the main storage partition too. Game saves, backed up data, etc.
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    Only an issue if that's correct info. It may not necessarily be if Speedfan SMART can't read the drive properly.
     
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    I see we're having the double post issues again :p
     
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    It's new page o clock, because once again the forum has bugged...
     
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    I may try reformatting the drive, and use it for something for myself. Already ordered him a new drive. But I sure would like to have it reallocate the sectors, so that I can clone the data to a new drive. Gonna have to search about reallocation, without reformatting. Never had to do this before :p
     
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    Bad sectors reallocate automatically on all drives. If unrecoverable sector errors occur, the spare sectors are used up, and the drive becomes a problem. If of course, that's actually happened. Check with several other programs including ones that state they can read the drive first.
     
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    This is what that result mentioned.
    "A simple disk surface scan won't be enough to force the remap operation. You need a read/write surface scan to remap the sector. The best option should be a tool that knows about what should be read from that sector so that it has some option to apply the best fix to the missing data."
    That tells me it doesn't do it automatically. It most certainly should on an xbox though eh? Without a pc to perform such operations, it should do maintenance like that on its own. Looks like M$ forgot something!
     
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    I had this too to be fair, I had to reformat a 400GB Samsung because it had one bad sector.
     
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    So you lost everything on it, because you had to reformat?
     
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    Nah, I backed it up first. The bad sector didn't lose me any data, it just meant the drive kept clicking, hanging the system and causing BSODs.
     
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    I notified ddp about the problems I'm having with AD, and he told me to contact Admin about. I just don't know who the Admin is. I'm currently 4 pages behind, as the pages haven't advanced for more than a week now, and I'm not getting any email notifications for any of my subscribed threads.

    Anyone have any ideas?

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    No problems with viewing threads or emails here, just the double post on a new page bug, where your post only appears after a second reply on the page is posted, and linking to a new page takes you to page 1 of the thread. As far as admins go, drD is about the only one I know of, who I think is the head of the site. Lethal_B I haven't seen in a long while.
     
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