The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition

High Standards , Mediocre Standards . What is the true meaning of this ?
Lower gauge metal , what! All cabinets seem to have the same basic internal features
Same abundance of add ons

 

If you've built systems using different cases, you'll notice the build quality differences in both the actual construction and the material.
The HAF 932 is made from relatively cheap material so the side panels actually bend considerably which causes you to have to hold them at both ends to attach them.
This material is also possible to bend with your fingers it's so soft, so when you put the case side back on, if you try and push on it when it's not quite aligned, you can easily buckle the bottom of the case where it hooks into the slot, and need to bend it back again with pliers - this has happened to me a few times. You don't see this with higher quality aluminium cases.
Also, stuff like the tool-less PCI brackets in a lot of coolermaster cases, I've broken those off a fair few times because they're so cheap and tacky.
In the cheapest of cases, the edges aren't filed down, so when you build a system you can easily cut yourself on the rough edges.
Contrastingly, with really high-end cases like expensive Lian-Lis, everything is smooth, strong and robust, you're hard pressed to damage anything in the case without considerable force.

 

When your building a Computer you actually handle with Kid Gloves , not like a Bull in a China Shop.
I actually keep an Emory board handy just to buff out rough edges
I can see a heavy gauge case if you move around a lot
But also I keep the original box that it came in which helps in moving
Myself I would choose the lesser expensive case, and emery out the rough edges, as far as cheap quick release just handle more delicately, without forceing. If by chance you break a few, theirs always a few screws laying around . Which turns out to be be no biggy

 

Exactly!

 

It's not a case of being heavy-handed Rick, it's a case of poor construction.
You should not need to break out Emery paper to finish the job of a case manufacturer either.

 

Qualiy today seems not to be the same as yester year
Sony, Pioneer, Teac, most mfgrs. etc. now a days just seem to be name brands. Where as they used to stand for Quiality
Prices are still up, but not Quality
So if you find something with the same features at a lower price I recommend you go with it. Even if it has a few flaws as you've mentioned
JUST MY OPINION

 

You're opinion and you're entitled to it, and I agree with you. However, the same applies to all ends of the market. What once was a very high quality brand is now an average quality brand, but what once was an average quality brand is now a poor quality brand. It's still worth paying the extra, you just can't get properly built stuff any more.

 

Dis agree . Today it's the DOLLAR VALUE
The best you can get for the dollar you afford
Even though tine is money, it's not out of POCKET
SO SOME TIMES IT PAYS TO SPEND $20.00 IN TIME TO SAVE $5.00 CASH LAYOUT
Most of the time I'll spend the Xtra buck , But I rarely by top line, mostly middle line
Mother Boards, Memory, PSU , definetly the better. But by reviews, not cost.

 

So if you can afford a better quality case, you would buy one... That's my point.

 

Only if the reviews were Extremely higher
If by comparison a less expensive case offer the same I would buy the lesser. even with certain flaws. I rarely move my units, I dust around and under every 5 years whether they need it or not. Blow them out on the inside once a month, with a Cpmpressor

Off topic one of my DVD Writers suddenly quit Writing or recognizing Blanks. Reads dedicated and writable Disc. Also plays them... LITE-ON DVD RW AD 7200S
Any suggestions

I already tried re flashing

 

Lite-on 7200S? The 7200S is an optiarc :S

 

omegaman7 : And your solution being what

 

In my opinion, faulty writers/readers should be replaced. I happen to like my 7241S and 7261S. Keep in mind they work best at higher than typical speeds though. 12X and up.
Shame your 7200S is acting up. Mine is one of my more favored drives. It reads really well..

 

MY FAVORITE ALSO

 

Yeah the AD-7200S is a Sony/NEC Optiarc drive, not a LiteOn.
If it's broken, replace it. Pretty simple really

 

atleast the bug increaces your spam count

 

I do it as a means for me being able to see the new page, not so I get to increase my message count...

 

LOL! That's exactly why I posted. Surely the info we're giving them, aids them in revising the code?

 

Hey sam, what kind of lag do you experience with ANY of your green drives. Since they like to idle differently then the black drives, I'm curious how this effects your windows experience. Windows 7 by default like to idle all hard disks after 15 or 20 minutes. I forget which(I put a stop to that immediately). Which causes them to have to start/stop. When they're stopped, ANY windows operation that requires a query of the drive, will cause a 2 - 4 second lag. I've heard no matter the setting, these green drives just plain behave that way? I would prefer that they constantly ran at their 5400Rpms, rather than constantly stopping and starting. This just may be why we're seeing the reviews we are. And if they just plain have to start and stop, it might be wise to install one in an external case, that way its only used when absolutely necessary.

Hey M$! How about individual control of a drive? Is this not possible? Other than running it externally...

 

I agree about individual control, that's something I really want.
Due to the number of Green drives I run, and how little each gets accessed dynamically, i'm fine with the 15 minute timeout. It's worth pointing out this startup occurs with any hard disk, not just WD Greens. If you turn it off though, they don't do it...