The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition

BD for Russ is a waste, I have a 40 incher, same results, a waste, how many times and how many different threads, this subject goes on and on, I did the BD thing on my 40 way back, hardly any significant difference, over 40 yes, I just helped my sister in- law get a 55, did convince her for a BD player, did show her the difference between her dvd player and the BD movies on her new BD player.

She was impressed but not by much, she's the kind that can still watch non HD content on her LCD TV which really sucks, I could not do it whenever we were over her house, my eyes are cursed, they pay to much attention to detail, but all in all she's happy.

I was suprised when she said something I always said all along, and I never mentioned this to her, this came from her own head, she said how much a of great difference there was between VHS to DVD, this blue thing people talk about, ahhh, no biggie she said, give the woman a cigar.

Damit, 1st reply didn't take, things are running goofy today, hope this doesn't turn to a double post.

 

People, if you get directed to page one, just assume the post went through ok. It does for me every time. I simply posted last time, so I could get to page 96.

Just a suggestion But perhaps the bug behaves differently for each person?

 

Unless there's a bug with your software, I see no point in partially uncompressing the video files to bluray bitrate before re-encoding, as that's the whole point of transcoding, doing that isn't necessary. Using transcoding does not cause any quality loss. If you're starting with rips of the files rather than the actual blurays then you're already limiting yourself by quality to a certain extent.
For the record, bluray bitrate is not uncompressed. Uncompressed video would be near-impossible to play on any PC as at 1920x1080 30fps a 1 hour file would be 626GB, not including the audio!
Your 'I refuse to have anything to do with bluray' doesn't really make a lot of sense. What's it to you if you download raw bluray files off the internet instead of 8-10GB rips? Since you're already converting the files to .m2ts as part of your transcoding process for some reason, the difference is none. The only impact this has, other than reducing the risks associated with downloading ripped films to begin with, is that it'll take you longer to download, as you'll be at 25-50GB instead of 8-15.
By converting to m2ts from the ripped files you're already making your own virtual bluray disc, just converting back from it.

I won't get started on the sports debate as it bores me as well, but that doesn't necessarily mean there isn't anything TV related I would want to watch. More accurately, there's something i want to watch on periodically, but I'm not basing my life around the TV schedule to watch it. I will download it so that I can watch it later at my leisure.
I would still want an HDTV if I could get one, partly for watching TV/film, but mostly for games console use really. Stevo's summed up the benefits of HDTVs pretty well aside from that, nature documentaries and stuff like bond films (although not many of those have yet been remastered properly), are superb to watch on a large HD screen.

I find it amusing how despite getting a mediocre score on the colour accuracy test I can tell the difference between DVD and HD quality on a TV seemingly far moreso than other people here. 720p to 1080p can be tricky sometimes, but it's definitely noticeable on 1080p resolution displays because the 720p is not natively upscaled (the pixels are not exactly doubled to fit). On my 2560x1600 display, 720p vs 1080p is much more difficult, because 720p is natively upscaled (pixels doubled) but 1080p is not.

Omega: You need at least two posts on the new page for people to be able to see it, sometimes 3, and in rare cases, 4. I just keep posting until the new page appears.

 

I need one post to arrive on the new page. Provided someone else has posted.

 

This thread is bugged, and has been for a long time. When you reach a new page, the newly generated page is not visible until 2 to 4 messages are on it, otherwise the page is invisible to people browsing the thread, and any links leading to that page (e.g. from a 'new post' email) will direct the user to page 1 of the thread.

I will add, this bug seems to affect almost any thread that reaches 80+ pages.

 

Well, that's one solution to the problem. It would be better if aD could just, fix the bug?

 

Indeed. The bug could introduce itself to any thread. I imagine they do study the bug. Perhaps it's simply a very odd bug.

 

I even get it showing the last post and then popping down further so I have to scroll back up to view, weird.

For those that can’t tell the difference of HD on a 32” TV you need glasses, not to mentions names Russ & Fred! I could never watch movies on a computer as my primary viewing, way YUK!

 

Depends on the PC screen to be fair - when you view a PC screen you have a smaller viewing area (usually), but obviously better pixel density so it often works out the same. Difference is, most people, myself included, prefer watching TV from a sofa than an office chair, so it's better to have a bigger screen and sit further from it. A 30" PC monitor makes a good means of watching TV, but being a higher resolution than 1080p but not an exact multiple, the difference between 720 and 1080 can be a little vague unless you sit very close.

 

Sammy hit the nail on the head when he said this,
This thread is bugged, and has been for a long time. When you reach a new page, the newly generated page is not visible until 2 to 4 messages are on it, otherwise the page is invisible to people browsing the thread, and any links leading to that page (e.g. from a 'new post' email) will direct the user to page 1 of the thread.

I have posted a long time ago, I can get a half dozen e-mails from this thread and all are not new, I post a new reply and won't get on-line for a day or two, unless I go to the afterdawn news letter, there my new post always show's up, weird, maybe it is time for a 5th edition.

Steve, sorry but even though I do need glasses to read, my eyes are perfect on a distance, I can still read a letter 10 feet away, I still amase my optometrist, and when I said about I gave the BD thing a shot a while ago, I didn't elaborate, but will now, I invited my friends and neighbors when I first got my 40 to see if they could tell, I did so because myself and my wife were excited about this new gig everybody was raving about, after watching it we both looked at each other and said what the hell is this, is this was all the hoopla is about, thats when I did the test, I had at least a dozen people here including my kids, I hid both players so nobody could see, we watched the new spiderman 2 or 3 I forget, I had both copies DVD & BD, quess what, nobody was impressed, and nobody besides trying to quess were constantly accurate, actually everybody said what a rip.

We did go to one of my neighbors house all of us did and gave it a shot on his TV, he had one of those big suckers, that's were everybody did see the difference, it took a while do set all that up, but everybody didn't mind because we all wanted to see if it was worth the upgrade, nobody till this day has gone the BD route on my street, now if that doesn't put a feather in your hat well than I guess were all wrong.

When I say my eyes pay attention to detail I don't exagerate, I so wanted to be wowed like we all were with the difference between VHS & DVD, but this BD thing, just not worth it, but as always, to each his or her own.

 

Ya, that is a good point, it just is I don't prefer watching TV on something smaller than a 27" and really prefer 40"+.

Good point Sam,
Stevo

Fred,

Sorry but if you can't see the difference there is something wrong, I need not say more as I and others I know can easily see the difference.

I have a friend that's wife says she has good eyes and she can't see the difference between SD & HD, we all laugh. It's like the gambler that says he always wins at the casino but is always broke.

 

The first BD I watched, was Star Trek 2009 on a 720P 50" Plasma. I noticed the difference. My mother, who is not picky about video quality also noticed a difference. She said it looked sharper and clearer.

Clearly, everybody sees differently than one another.

 

On a 50" I'm not surprised, 480p to 720p is a big jump on such a large display. You have to consider, there is a point of definition which is 'good enough' which varies from peson to person, and with distance from the screen. On a 50" display, 480p is only 19.6 pixels per inch, whereas 720p is 29.4 pixels per inch. Conversely, most PC monitors are around 50-60 pixels per inch, and that makes a difference.

 

I'm simply saying people can see a difference between HD and SD. Even my brother and his wife can tell the difference on their 40" 1080P screen. And they sit 12 - 15' back...
It's worth noting my brother has 20/20 vision. I think one of his eyes is actually beyond it, if memory serves. I'm not exaggerating here...

 

i can see the difference between hd very easily, esp with sports. I personally think that hd was made for sports. Watching football (soccer) in hd really brings the enjoyment of the game to a new level.