The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition

Very tidy. As it should be I wish your coolit a long life

 

That's a rather old photo as well. I've since replaced the PATA DVD-RW with a SATA. The upper section of cabling is much cleaner now. Will post some pics when I find my iPod touch LOL.

 

Forgive me, but I'm not taking the side off my PC for now
Spent the second half of today swapping PSUs around in old faulty machines at work (acers, ugh) so I have little motivation to take the side off my own PC which has been working faultlessly for months

 

Some of us enjoy such things. Myself, I don't like working in this cramped area! But I love opening up any and all machines LOL!

 

It will be done! LOL!

 

I did. When you do something for a living though, you quickly tire of it, trust me!

 

I hear ya. I handle boxes at work all day. The last thing I wanna do at home, is handle a box. I enjoy everything pertaining to computers. But one day, I may just find that my position has changed a bit.

 

Kevin, My cooler is like yours but mine hangs slightly over the first RAM slot so getting a tall heatspreader might be a problem. I haven't filled the RAM yet but will down the road and I could have to do some jockeying of the heatsink on the CPU to make it fit.

I think I'm going to get a Hybrid 750GB notebook drive to speed up the new notebook as the original WD in there is very slow and drags the performance down. I may also get a Intel 6300 or 633 nic that can do 3T3R, 450M transfer rates. That would finish out my upgrade needs for the notebook.

 

Might be worth my time guys, to trade in my iPod Touch 3rd gen for a 4th gen for $150. This one is getting a bit long in the tooth. Must look into overclocking it as it's currently an 833MHz underclocked to 600MHz. Battery life not an issue as it currently pulls ~30 hours listening to music, maybe 7 or 8 video.

 

I've seen a fair few heatsinks like that myself. Interestingly, even though a lot of heatsinks hang over the memory slots, very few block anything but very tall profile sticks. My CoolIt Eco looks like it could possibly cause issues with fat heatspreaders.

 

I think you're right and I'll be OK but it will be close. If I were you I would definitely upgrade your iPod to the 4th gen they are really nice, and I'm not an Apple fan generally speaking.

 

My windows 6.5 phone works fine for me

Yah, my fan gets really close to that first ram module. In fact they contact. I'm considering going back to slots 3 and 4 though. I'm curious if it will eliminate a problem with the XMP profile. If I run it at full spec, certain programs will bluescreen. Others simply have a curious lag(firefox). I don't dare defragment if my memory isn't stable LOL!

 

These days mb manufactures expect you to run your first two sticks in the back slots so I would do that, and I do myself now. It use to be you always started in the first two slots even though they have always shown either or, but things have changed. However it sounds like you have timing issues with your RAM which you may need to play with if you're going to continue to clock at whatever rate you are OC'n at. Whenever I OC one of the tests of stability for me is that certain programs run as some benchmark tests may say everything is OK when indeed there still is a problem, including the prime test. Just another reason I don't put much weight on benchmarks.

I agree Kevin why pay sooooo much for Apple products when you can get something just as good or even better for much less. However if I had a 3rd gen iPod and could use the trade-in to get a new 4g for $150 I would do so, providing it was a 32G. If it were a 8G or 16G then maybe not.

 

Because Apple products(mobile products anyway) are higher quality than the competition by far. They also have miles more apps than Android devices. BTW they only ever made 32GB and 64GB 3rd Gen iPods. The 8GB models are rebranded 2nd Gens. I have a 64GB 3rd Gen.

The big differences are that the 4th Gen has twice the vertical and horizontal resolution, a much better battery, a faster CPU, and 2 separate front and back cameras.

 

Started playing Bulletstorm the other day. Really enjoying it so far, although it's another title I can just play at max detail without worrying about performance

Updated performance table for you

HD6850: 130
HD6870: 160
HD7850: 180
HD6950: 190
HD7870: 200
HD6970: 210
HD7950: 265
HD7970: 310

 

BulletStorm is a bit short and generic feeling but it is a riot laugh all the way through. Very creative writing and level design, and always engaging. None of the game feels like a chore.

 

Apple mobile products aren't better by far, at least I don't buy that nonsense. They almost never have been first and they have always brainwashed their users to believe they are first and revolutionary, neither is true... And on top of that they screw you by over pricing their products and pigeon hole you once you get them. I turn most people onto better products much cheaper than iCrap and the only ones I can't sway are the people that are too dumb to use anything other than iTunes, or so they think.

I say NO to Apple!

$300 for an iPod or $80 for something comparable with FM tuner and no protected music, pretty much a no brainier, and I certainly don't need camera's front and back. Actually why even get an MP3 player since your phone can do the job.

 

Because the $300 iPod has an 800MHz CPU, 256MB of RAM, a 720p display(480p on my 3rd Gen), 30-40 hours of battery life on said hardware, Wi-Fi, BlueTooth, a dedicated graphics chip, a dedicated sound processor, a built-in web browser, the ability to video chat in real-time with Skype, a tempered glass display, a stainless steel chassis, need I go on? It also has access to thousands of quality apps and the ability to to play some thousand high quality games including many ported from other consoles and several platform exclusives. You obviously need a refresher course because the iPod stopped being solely an MP3 player a long time ago. It's basically an ultra mobile PC with just as much functionality. They aren't claiming to be the best or the first. Nobody ever said that here except you. What they do claim is to make a good quality product with a lot of useful features that your $80 MP3 player does not have, at all.

Also protected music is laughably easy to circumvent and on that same thread all of the apps ever released for the Ipod/iPhone can be had for free, and there are a lot of them.

The camera on front is solely used for realtime video chat, a feature a cellphone or MP3 player does not have. The camera on the back is a much higher resolution and used for taking pictures. This camera is also much higher quality than those found on most cell phones or multimedia devices matching the iPod's price, let alone for $80.

BTW I make phone calls with my phone, not listen to music. Phones get ass sound quality anyway so who in their right mind would use their phone as a dedicated MP3 player? Not only that but I highly doubt there exists a Micro SD card(what my phone takes) that can hold my music collection alone, around 40GB, while The iPod holds most of it quite easily along with several gigs of games, movies and apps. Not only that but it probably has better sound quality than any dedicated MP3 player currently made. BTW, I have had more than one cellphone marketed as a dedicated MP3 player and they don't hold a candle to the iPod.

The iPod also has the distinct advantage of not being tethered to a paid service like a phone. I don't have to change it on a whim because my mobile service stops supporting it suddenly, as has happened with my cellphone.

Oh yeah did I mention my iPod has the ability to play all of my retro consoles and Gameboy games from the last 20 years? It does that too. Kinda nice considering the gamesave battery in my Pokemon Silver version died about 5 years ago. Yet another thing most other products simply do not have the ability to do.

BTW the display is impressive in the 4th Gen.

http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/features/retina-display.html

My good friend has it and it is amazing.

I say YES to Apple mobile products. The only ones I can't sway are those too dumb to figure out how to jailbreak, or too set in their own ways to even listen to plain facts.

Don't get me wrong I am the number one person to avoid stupid marketing slang and catchphrases, but the iPod Touch is a fantastic product. It offers a complete package of features that other devices $100 more struggle to match. This is not opinion or speculation, this is cold, hard fact that I can back up with numbers. Remember I am a hardcore hardware purist and I would not support this product at all if I didn't think it was truly worthy of praise. The biggest complaint I can level is that Touch Screen controls are clumsy with my large hands but I got used to that in a day. I use my iPod Touch nearly 24/7 and it is a wonderful replacement for both my laptop and MP3 player. And if it were an iPhone it would replace my phone as well, but my service carrier didn't offer the iPhone at the time I bought the iPod.

I agree that Apple is fundamentally evil and only sheep follow Apple. But their proprietary hardware is top-notch and the homebrew community is very active, creative and prolific.

 

well hell let me jump in on this convo....lol
my wife has the new Iphone 4S and i think it sucks compared to my GalaxyS. i dont know what or how you get 30-40 hours battery life out of the thing? she uses hers for everything from music player,cell usage,, taking pics send text,surfing hte net, ect... and is lucky to get 8 hours out of it. and the pics the camera takes flat out suck. blurred,to bright to dark pixelated.... once again compared to my GalaxyS id rather have a 10yo flip phone.
as for the 40gb micro sd card? there is a 32gb card that is in my GalaxayS giving me a total of 48gb of storage. and there is a newly jusy outed 64gb micro sd from kingston. the Galaxy tablets are supposed to able to use them right now.

heck i never thought i would hear someone in this thread promoting a IPhone, there is no tinkering to a Iphone. all the tinkering we do with gadget in here??? lol