The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition

Yah, it's obvious to me that it's not hardware related. Has to be some kind of software/driver bug, which I apparently cannot repeat at the moment. I generally close most running apps before gaming. Firefox is a slight Ram pig. I always close that when gaming.

 

The only software I had cause that sort of behaviour was Everest - reduced frame rate, image corruption, and eventually BSODs. As soon as I got rid of everest all was fine.

 

I've never had Everest introduce bugs. But I have read of other people having troubles. Russ if I'm not mistaken had an audio issue related. Due to what I've read, I don't run Everest while gaming. I only run it while stress testing, and sometimes while encoding.

It probably was Evga's OSD. Probably a fairly rare bug, that needs the right set of circumstances to repeat.

 

I just write what I'm thinking and I think an awful lot You have no idea what a gargantuan effort it is not to drone on for pages about everything and nothing. I at least try to keep the subject matter relevant XD

I still think running any tweaks in Precision could be a factor.

 

I disabled Evga OSD. I enabled Vsync, which apparently limits to 60Fps. I don't even need to run the GPU fan like this. Upper 60's is very likeable.

 

It literally limits it to the 60Hz refresh rate of your monitor. It eliminates screen tearing but can kill FPS on a certain few games. I use it quite a bit. Some games have Vsync on by default or forced on. It can usually be found in the graphics menu of most games or forced on by the video control panel.

 

I believe Left 4 Dead also limits to 60Fps. Totally not a big deal. The only reason this would bother a person, is if they're benchmarking. I would say my personal minimum for a game is between 40 and 60Fps. Any less than 40, and it begins to become apparent

 

Yeah, its EVGA precision that does that i've had similar problems once in a few blue moons though. for whatever reason evga also reported back erroneous values when this happened to me, like clock speed -1827364 or memory clock -265743 also ramped up my fan quite a bit.

 

Well, my fan didn't ramp up, but the GPU usage did. Which means it would have eventually I'll probably stop using it indefinitely. Fraps is incredible, and GPU-Z can monitor temps on a secondary monitor.

Newegg really needs a new subsection in Fans/Heatsinks. The Height is VERY important! I'm finding it rather difficult to locate the ideal HTPC CPU cooler. I need it to be near silent, or virtually silent. I'd prefer not go passive. I'd be more comfortable knowing there's airflow there
This one seems tempting. However I would likely want a 5.25" fan controller with it. I located it on ebay even cheaper!

Unfortunately, the thing about a fan controller, is it brings a temptation to children. Knobs and buttons tend to tempt little hands LOL! I should just go with as large a heatsink as I can, and a VERY low rpm.

 

Low profile CPU coolers. Big market, normally has its own search section in a lot of places.

 

I ran a search on newegg, for low profile cpu coolers. I was unimpressed LOL!

 

Pshh low Profile, you need a big chunk of Copper Core/Aluminum on there to sink your heat.

which brings me back to my old pondering question...why are they called heat-sinks? heat- pullers or heat-extractors would be more precise

 

I suppose I could just live with what he has. And force a lower rpm on the stock fan/heatsink. He never stresses the CPU. And what's more, it's underclocked. It really shouldn't be overheating. Hmmm, I wonder if AMD overdrive can override fan settings.

 

Well, there aren't many low profile coolers that can take overclocked Phenom II furnaces, but there are plenty of offerings that work quietly with 95 and 130W chips.

 

Because they sink the heat and that is the proper term or way to use it. No wonder things get messed up these days, everyone tries to reinvent the wheel.

@Kevin
My new HTPC Shuttle has a better heat sink system then that one you found on NewEgg. That doesn't provide much airflow and will still be a bit loud. A heat sink that feeds into a radiator on the back is the way to go with a 140-200mm fan depending on the size of the case you are using. Or pressurize the case with a large low profile RPM fan but you shouldn't need to OC a HTPC system so why would you need such a beast?

Stevo

 

.....im not buying it. heat isn't being sunk, its being transferd/pulled/extracted away from the component on which it rests.

 

No it's not. Heat flows of its own properties, it isn't propelled. We don't mean sinking like a ship. Look it up, it's a scientific term.

 

Thank you Estuansis, it is to lower just like a ship sinking in a sense but this time it is heat. You're sinking the heat to a lower level.

Here is one definition which support what I just said:

heat sink

A component designed to lower the temperature of an electronic device by dissipating heat into the surrounding air. All modern CPUs require a heat sink. Some also require a fan. A heat sink without a fan is called a passive heat sink; a heat sink with a fan is called an active heat sink. Heat sinks are generally made of an aluminum alloy and often have fins.

Webopedia

 

I appreciate your input guys. This is the HTPC case I'm speaking of. And I'm NOT overclocking. What I meant was it's UNDER clocked.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811121100
Please disregard the Powersupply though. I replaced it with a Seasonic. I of course kept the other for backup

The processor is an Athlon 5200+ by the way.

 

That brings back old memories for sure as I've built literally thousands of those computers. Very common in medical facilities and even offices or schools. Unfortunately they tend to be tight and I can see your problem better now. You'll either have to go with the NewEgg heat sink or jerry-rig something. If that heat sink system didn't sandwich the fan between the cooling fins and the heatpipe sink you could possible mount a 120mm fan on top of it but again that isn't an option. If I see something when I'm digging around I'll let you know now that I know what you are working with.

Also I got the ASUS monitor and yes Fred & Russ it is pretty nice my mom just loves it and I think it is pretty decent too. The dual monitor arm I got works very well and worth every bit of ching I paid for it. The single monitor arm is even better and you can't beat it for $40, excellent reach length, rotates 360 deg, and easy to move around and tilt if needed.

I just bought some new memory for my main desktop I think you'll like it even though you can actually go one step higher in DRAM ratings.

G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) $53.99

The Shuttle will get my old DDR3 1333 memory and the Shuttle looks pretty good too, can hardly wait to get her going as my HTPC computer.