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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Sep 13, 2010.

  1. sytyguy

    sytyguy Regular member

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    Unless it is capable of SATA III, and hooked up to a like port it will not be faster than a USB3, which is 5Mps.

    Not to long ago, I was copying some Blu-ray data from one USB3 to another USB3, and it was traveling well over 100MPS, unfortuanately, I don't remember the exact speed.
     
  2. Mr-Movies

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    Even though the specs may be close with USB3 to SATA-II the SATA will normally perform much better as it is not a shared bus like USB is with lots of overhead, not to mention possible driver issues that can impede performance too.

    With USB2 it seems I never come close to full bus bandwidth rates even though it is said capable of such. I haven't played enough with USB3 to have a better opinion of its performance but it is the same beast and I would expect it to operate in a similar manner.
     
  3. sytyguy

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    You're kidding me right, SATA II is only 3.0Mbps, SATA III is 6Mbps, and as I mentioned USB3 is 5Mbps.
     
  4. Estuansis

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    No SATA II is 3.0Gbs and SATA III is 6.0Gbs ;P
     
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  5. sytyguy

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    Hmmm, that is what I said?????
     
  6. ddp

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    Ok, sorry, I meant SATA II is 3.0Gbps, and SATA III is 6Gbps...............TYPO...............SO SORRY.
     
  8. ddp

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    don't yell as we are not deaf.
     
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    In practice all three of these interfaces can handle all but the faster SSDs out there. The difficulty with USB3 is that the controllers are all too often setup in a rather limited way that can potentially hamper performance.
     
  10. Mr-Movies

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    You obviously did not comprehend what I wrote. USB doesn't live up to its spec most of the time so even if the maximum bandwidths are similar SATA will perform better, summing it up much simpler for you.
     
  11. Estuansis

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    Lol poor sytyguy. All from a typo :p

    But yeah Movies is exactly right here. Even though USB has very reasonable theoretical specs, in reality it's always going to be a lot slower than SATA. USB3 manages ~40MB/s for me while my slowest SATA2 drive easily manages 70-75MB/s. My fastest being the WD1001FALS can pull 90-ish to another fast drive, and these aren't even SATA3 6Gbs drives.

    Just a question sytyguy, does your name refer to the Chevy Syclone and Typhoon? That's the only place I've seen the word "Syty".
     
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  12. sammorris

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    Indeed it does, we had a short discussion about that a while back when my brother used to own a GMC Typhoon. That was back in 2006 I think. Not the sort of thing you can get away with at UK fuel prices though :p
     
  13. Mr-Movies

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    I had a good friend with a late 60's Mercury Cyclone that had the roll down center rear window, very cool car.
     
  14. theonejrs

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    Mr-Movies,

    I'm thinking you mean late 50s. The model with the roll-down center rear window was only made for the 1957 and 1958 model years. The model you refer to was named "Turnpike cruiser", not "Cyclone". The 1964 Cyclone, was probably the first muscle car, since it came out just before the 64 Pontiac GTO, and was derived from the Mercury Comet. After NASCAR banned all Hemis, Ford continued to sell them in street configuration for a number of years with the SOHC 5.7 liter Hemi. I have a friend in Florida who's mother has one that's as original and cherry as you could ever hope to find. It was bought new, Special order, and maintained to loving perfection. It looks brand new! Her's is the Fuel Injected model with a 4 speed manual transmission. She's in her late 80's and still drives it back and forth to work every day. It's 100% original and has been garage kept since it was new. Bright Chrome yellow and flat black, with the Cyclone logo on each end cap of the rear wing. I feel very privileged to be the only non family member besides the Ford mechanics, to have ever driven it. Her son and I have been friends for going on 58 years. A few years ago they turned down a quarter of a million dollars for it. Eventually it will probably end up in the Ford Museum in Dearborn.

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
  15. Mr-Movies

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    No this was a Cyclone 1967 or 68 and it had a power rear window. We would run together since I had a 67' 442 with a W31 Holley 680 double pump and headers of course.

    I'm aware of the Turnpike as well and that wasn't what he had.
     
  16. ChrisC586

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    That would be 1965 I had the Monterey with the slide down back window. To stay on trrack is anyone using the Adata 120 drives
     
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    With current prices and the recent shift in my data storage habits, I have been considering an SSD heavily. They are nice.
     
  18. theonejrs

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    Stevo,

    Here's the problem I'm having with that. First the 67 Cyclone was based on the compact Mercury Comet, and had a conventional flat trunk. http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/...=148&start=0&ndsp=52&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:0,i:128 The 68 thru 71 were fastbacks, with a very narrow trunk lid and were based on the mid sized Montego. Looked like a ski slope on wheels. I looked through all my Automotive books, and I can't find one with the "Notchback" rear window on any of them. I also looked through Google images and found the http://www.legendarycollectorcars.com/museum/1969-mercury-cyclone-cale-yarborough-spoiler-428cj/ and the 68 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3559...=162&start=0&ndsp=50&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:135

    The question is how would you put a notchback power window in a fastback? The second question would be why?


    Russ
     
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    Chris,

    Good to hear from you again. You are correct. The full size Monterey had them, but the mid-sized 68-69 cyclone didn't that I can find. As I said, these were both fastbacks Neither did the 64-67 compact Comet based Cyclone. I had forgotten that the Monterey was the top of the line at one time, before the Marquis and Grand Marquis.

    I've installed 2 of the Adata 120GB SSD's for customers, and the performance was about the same as my Patriot Pyro 60GB SSD. I would recommend either of them, without hesitation.

    Warmest Regards,
    Russ
     
  20. Mr-Movies

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    Ya your right Russ it was the 58 Turnpike but he also had the 67 Cyclone too, my mistake. Both were fast cars but I sure loved the old Turnpike very sweet ride. My 442 with the W31 455 in it would walk all over him but we sure had fun. Another friend had the only car that could beat mine including another guy with a 442 and he had a 67 barracuda with a 440 Interceptor dual points engine, man that car was fast! I had another friend with a 69 race orange with blue stripes Pontiac Judge that car could give me problems too.

    My SanDisk Ultra 120GB & Corsair Nova Series 60GB are comparable too. You can't get too carried away by the specs with SSD's
     
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