The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition

I think I'll take a shot at 2560 long before I think about 4K. Consider me one of the users that doesn't really care, haha. I can relate to your needs, but mine are just much simpler. Gamer first and foremost I suppose

In a different direction, I have been giving thought to supplementing/replacing my 1080p monitor with a mid-sized HDTV. Say 37"+ would be excellent for many varieties of games, especially simulators. In this case, size is a larger consideration than resolution.

 

I wouldn't want to have one without the other really. As nice as the 30" 2560x1600 monitor is in a desktop and PC gaming environment, and handy as it is that it can receive games consoles directly or via the HDMI out of my receiver, an anti-glare high accuracy low contrast display doesn't do console gaming or TV/films proper justice. I did originally have an HDTV when living away from home, but having moved back in there was no room for it. It's eventually my intention to get something like this, whenever I finally move out again:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1J70M30421

46 is about as large as I'd want for 1080p. Beyond that point, I think the resolution is simply too low.

 

Currently using a 40" Coby with a decent panel but not much else for features. Great alternative for movies, but my current living arrangement limits how I can arrange my work area, so almost useless for gaming. Also agreed that rather large TVs start to get pretty fugly at 1080p. DLP displays avoid some of this, but it's still an issue.

I hope to be moving back upstairs to my previous room sometime this summer. Would allow me a much larger work area and a lot more room for electronics placement. Would rather not get too entrenched in this home though as I do have future plans to move in with a very special female :S Wish me luck there.

My main focus with using the TV for gaming will be sims and emulators. Something magical about playing certain games on a TV

 

Perpetual motion. In all honesty, no. It converts one form of energy to another, and back again. With a near infinite result of output power With respect to how many of the devices are employed.

There is a form of energy, that ISN'T being tapped nearly as much as it could be. I find it funny, that 4/5 of the components, are used in every day life

 

There are many ways to convert one form of energy/power to another, with varying degrees of efficiency. One universal law is you can't get back more than you put in. I didn't make that up, some guy smarter than me said that...

 

Heh heh... That rule doesn't exactly apply to my device. No, it doesn't violate natural law. And I DO get back more than I put in. Sorry, but I can't divulge my secrets. For reasons already explained. Believe it, or not...

 

I would disagree, as Deadrum is 100% correct, you can't get more back then there is to begin with. In fact you can't even get 100% back as there is ALWAYS lose involved. That is why perpetual motion is only a theory. You can't change mother nature, physics mandates that. For an example, Fusion might seem like you get more back then you put in but again you don't, you are just using the full potential of that energy when it is excited. In its natural state it may seem tame but its potential is massive.

We may need to do a Spock mind meld intervention.

 

As I said, that rule doesn't apply to this device exactly. That's all I'm gonna say. Many more hints, and you guys might uncover my plans :S

That's probably why "The Electrician" had trouble believing it.

 

I don't care what your plans are, no offense, but rules physics apply to everything and everyone, period, including your so called device! I'm sure your electrician is right on the mark.

I was going to leave you with your delusion until Deadrum tried to straighten you out. It seems though that it is comfortable for you to gravitate in this area so there is no need to further our discussion.

Enjoy Kevin,
Stevo

 

My Device DOES conform to natural law!!! And you're right. No need to further discuss this Since I can't divulge the proper information to alleviate your skepticism, we'll leave it at this.

This is the PC building thread

I guess I should stop bringing it up. But it's soo exciting!

 

It's relevant to me! I can run all my hardware, and pay a FLAT electric bill!

 

When I get it built, you can bet I will!

I've seen youtube videos of people attempting/conducting fairly similar apparatuses. However haphazard. My design will be simplistic, however stylish at the same time. Containing the apparatus, depends on where it will be stationed. In other words, I should be open to different designs for peoples homes. E.g. a footstool, speaker box, etc. The applications should be near infinite. Respective to the components of course.

 

Yes, you should watch it. It's pretty much all about Britain, with a bit of Iceland and Walking Dead thrown in, lol. Yes, thank you for that suggestion, I did. Look for subject "popular tv program."

Those 4k images were stunning! I see why they are using them for medical records and complicated spreadsheets. Yes, makes perfect sense. A game would be exceptional - but the poor graphics hardware to run the game, oh my god, and the heat generated. You'd have to get a second air-conditioner.

What did we say - they have 2560x1600 on 10" displays, right? So we'd need a 9-fold increase in power - and no more heat than today. The graphics card technology would have to be substantially much smaller than existing - 28nm - is that where we are right now? Cut it at least in half, if not down to 8-10nm.

I would guess by 2022 AMD/Nvidia and the foundries might have the dies small enough and the power to run a 30" monitor at those resolutions. What's your guess Sam?

Well, I am as skeptical as anybody, but I am still interested in what Kevin comes up with, or rather, what he envisions coming up with, which all of us doubters, deadrum, stevo, and myself, are all still dying to know about, lol. As a former physics major, I am certainly aware of natural laws, but then again, the human mind is perhaps a thing unto itself - physics doesn't exactly describe life and death, does it? Well, one could argue it does, but .....

Anyway, let me ask you Kevin - at what point in the process are you going to give us a bit more information - 3 months from now, a year? LOL

Rich

 

Should be less than a few months. Humans are quite intelligent! I certainly don't think I'm even close to Einstein's abilities. I tested once above 150. I was incredibly nervous too. And that tends to cloud ones judgement What I mean though, is even a highly intelligent person, won't see what's right under their nose sometimes. I think we can all attest to that And maybe(probably) there's more than one person who has realized what I'm thinking about. It just didn't seem practical to them, to go forward with it. I imagine there are thousands of people, that would realize the potential, if all the components were laid out in front of them. I had only two components in front of me when I realized it. I was 20 yrs old. They are the main components needed for it to work. I want to be the first (one of the first), to accomplish this. So I can't even throw their technical names out there, because it's so simple, you'd know where I'm dreaming this up.

This is no vision. It's simple logic. I KNOW it will work As sure as I know I will fall, if I step off a cliff!

 

Getting more out than you put in could be true, if it refers to something other than energy, e.g. money. All I'll say on the matter is that if it's that blindingly simple/obvious, it will have been done before, but if it's not out there, means it wasn't successful. There'll be a reason for that.

As for the 4K, with heat generation, obviously the display itself is going to put out a lot less heat than a 3008WFP given its LED backlit. I realise of course you're talking about the graphics - I think running the games you can only run with crossfire at lower resolutions now is a lost cause - the 4K is really only going to benefit easy-to-run games at this stage.

 

It probably was done before. I find it hard to believe, that little ol me figured it out LOL! I also find it very hard to believe, that it wouldn't be successful. Because these components are used in our daily lives. I'm simply joining them together, in a very logical fashion. It's a form of energy used everyday. I'm almost tempted to just spill the beans. I can't see making a lot of money on this. Only from the more simple minded, who couldn't perform the tasks themselves. Or the lazy

This technology is not solar either, by the way. I'm not big on solar energy. It's limited to light source, and battery backup Though down the road, I could be interested in employing solar too. After all, it is energy already paid for via hydrogen/helium gas

It would also be very difficult to make it cheaply. Powering an entire home on a more advanced device, or multiple devices, would prove quite expensive. And if they don't survive long enough, money was wasted.

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Just dawned on another ability of my device. It'll sustain itself! Not indefinitely, however. Service would be required annually. See now, it was right under my nose, and I overlooked it. I don't even require the homes internal electrical infrastructure!

This is another interesting technology. But NOT what I'm working on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azwlYL1w7QA

 

I think I have a few ideas about it Omega ;P

 

I imagine you guys would! You seem really intelligent and logical. As most PC people are

I've tried multiple searches for Gasoline free generators. I come up with magnet based stuff, and solar energy. I find it hard to believe people are overlooking devices that are used by literally everyone. Maybe people just haven't had the ambition, or money to implement it. But the Rich don't care, and the poor don't have the money. There we have it!