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Discussion in 'PC hardware help' started by souldoubt, May 11, 2004.

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  1. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    That's a high spec monitor that can do 85Hz at 1600x1200, I think the G90 can only do 75 at that resolution. What screen is it?
     
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    ok this is very rare the rams in my computer are constantly failing
    i got pny 512 ddr400 and it failed like a month later
    kingston 512 ddr400 failed like month and a half
    transcend 1gb ddr400 failed like in a month

    really rare here's my board
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128301

    anyone have the same pro??
     
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    were you putting the ram into the same slots or different slots?
     
  4. sammorris

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    IMO if you're motherboard is potentially damaging memory chips through this that and the other, then it MIGHT be wise to change the board. However, it would be wise to check the reading of the 3.3V line on your power supply as well. If you haven't already got one, download a free hardware monitor program and inspect the readings at regular intervals. If sometimes they're a fair bit higher than they should be, or of course lower, then you might want to consider changing the power supply. If they're pretty good (+/-5%) then the motherboard is the most likely cause.
     
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    hi - hope this the right place for this question . . .
    I've been trying to put together a parts list for a new gaming computer and this is what I got so far. This will be my first build and I need lots of help, I'm sure. Look over my list and let me know if everything is compatible or if anything is overkill. And thanks alot for the help!



    Well heres the link to my goods. . .


    http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=1925054

    I threw in a floppy for completeness I guess. CAn't remember the last time I've used one.

    About the monitor - I have an old school HP pavillion M70

    http://www.recycledgoods.com/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=16997

    How will this monitor handle the graphics card?
     
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  6. photog

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    I am constructing a AMD computer.
    CPU: athlon 64 4200 x2 (Manchester)
    M/B:Gigabyte K8N Pro SLI (nForce 4) 4 sata2, 10 usb2, 3 firewire, 4 RAM slots
    RAM: 4 GB DDR (standard RAM as when running Photoshop CS2 (my major application) the qualtity of RAM is more important than fast timings
    Graphics card; Radeon RX600 Pro - Native PCIe 16(more than adequate for Photoshop)
    HDD: 2 250 GB WD YD sata2 drives, 1 120 GB USB2 for backup
    Case: Thermaltake Tsunami (all aluminium)
    No FDD (if needed I can drop one in the bottom of the case and hook it up to get me out of trouble)
    XP SP2 Pro with all updates
    I shoot RAW files which I process in PS CS2. Thus my main requirement is CPU power, storage and reliability , therefore the YD drive.
    I may yet decide to run the WD YD's in RAID0
    Ron
     
  7. sammorris

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    Avoid the X600Pro, go for an X800GT if you can, it's not a lot more, but it's a lot more powerful. To complement that CPU an X600 VPU just isnt adequate.
     
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    sammorris
    Thank you for your reply. Did you pick up the point that this system will be used mostly for Photoshop. I was following the advice from the exhaustive and highly recommended Photoshop reference, “The Real World Photoshop CS” by David Blatner and Bruce Fraser.
    Here is the reference from page 9, Building a Photoshop System:
    Video acceleration. There's a widespread but ill-founded belief that accelerated video boards speed up Photoshop screen redraw. The bot¬tleneck in redrawing Photoshop images on the screen is almost never the video system-it's getting the image data out of RAM (or even worse, from disk) to the video system. A super-fast video card may make your system feel faster and more responsive, but if you analyze what's going on, you'll usually find that the difference is a screen redraw of two-tenths of a second rather than five-tenths of a second. (Of course, those tenths of a second can add up-in a month you may even save enough time to grab a cup of coffee.) Most video acceleration these days is aimed at 3D graphics performance-useful if you do a lot of 3D work or play a lot of games-but the 2D performance of just about any current video card is good enough that it won't constitute a significant bottleneck in your Photoshop work.
    The only reason we can find to add a third-party video board is to obtain higher resolutions than the built-in video offers. You really need to be able to run at your desired resolution in 24-bit (millions) color-16-bit color is fine for viewing images, but not for editing them.
    A fairly widespread misconception is that a video board with a lot of VRAM will be somehow faster than one with less. Not so. More VRAM simply translates into more pixels on the screen-as long as your monitor can display them.
    Regards
    Ron McDermott
     
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    Yes, for photoshop the VRAM is unimportant, but I think for bigger jobs you would see a difference with a slightly faster GPU.
     
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    None of the CPUs that are on there look clean, but I wouldn't like to say whether or not that they're impaired by the slight marks and warping caused, presumably by being warm in use.

    However, you will note that in this picture that the CPU is slightly warped and it's still in its retail box.

    [​IMG]

    The offer looks reasonable, but the FX-53 adjacent for $70 more interests me slightly more...
    If you do buy one and it doesn't work give him hell about it, he's got 99.9% +ve feedback, so he should be good to deal with if anything goes wrong.
     
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    When compared the 3800 and FX-53 preform very close to each other. If I can find a good deal on a FX-53, I'd buy it. On a different note, is there a prefered type/brand of heatsink gel to use to keep it cooler?
     
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    Also, any recomendations for a good mobo that supports dual cpus(939 socket) and 8 GB of ram?

     
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    For dual cpus I'm not sure, I don't know much about them, but for cooling your best bet is a zalman cooler with Arctic silver V thermal grease. Avoid ones like Arctic Alumina, they're not as good.
     
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    Heya 0o0o0, I like the parts, this looks like the kind of computer i was gonna build, cept more meaty. Looks like you've got everything but the hard drive, on newegg though they have a nice 250gb seagate barracuda for i think US$95. Your also going to need a power suplly, a cpu fan and some case fans
     
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    Hey im wanting to build a pc wich will beat my current one im wanting a intel P4 2Mb cache 3.0ghz or 2.8Ghz and 1gb of 533MHz ram a 6600gt graphics card and a old ide 120GB hd for the first week then geting a 10K raptor ive seen bad bench marks with the 36GB raptor is that true or dont worry about it and this for the mobo http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=515&l1=3&l2=11&l3=185 the chipset is slighly worse then my current on my mobo or would i be better of geting some high priced ram for my current pc and a 6600GT graphics card and for the first pc the rough specs would a 430W psu wich came with a thermaltake run it fine for a week so il know its all working before i blow $200 on a 600W psu and a 10K raptor ty in advance AD rox
     
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    Ack intel!, Just wondering, is this build, just for a possible upgrade, any good before i go out and buy the parts? budget is about $1500 aus, = ~US$1000

    Geforce 7800 gt, the SLI capable one
    Seagate Barracuda 250gb, 3gb/s transfer speed
    Abit KN8 SLI + AMD 64 3700+
    2x512mb Corsair DDR ram

     
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    Whis is also £579 GBP, 842 Euro's or even $1160 CAD.
    {approx}.
    Just helping out those who live somewhere else.

    Is there really anything wrong with Intel ? - seriously, its purely your choice, you can have whatever CPU you want, but it must be compatible :D
     
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    Hi. First post. Going to scrap together a PC... Already have loads of parts: ATX Case, WD80 IDE harddrive, soundblaster live, Radeon 8500 64mb, and most importantly an Athlon xp 2200 chip. They all work. All I really want to replace into this system is a new motherboard ($40-60) and 2 RAM chips ($60-$160)... have been looking at this motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813186061 ... any suggestions? Getting something that is compatible is really important. Yes, my machine will be wimpy! But Loved.
     
  20. ddp

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    that motherboard should be alright
     
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