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exactly...i was going to say the exact same thing. you beat me lol

 

I like the numbers I guess. 32bit vs 64bit...Which one will be what's used 1-2 years from now? I see what is going on. Pentium is making excellent Processors, the best quality, Premium prices with the Xeon line and the P4EE. Forgive me for saying the AMD is more advanced, I didn't mean that literally, I should have said this. It will be used for more advanced programming, Windows-64 and programs that use 64-bit technology. But I doubt the actual chip is better quality or more advanced in anyway over Pentium, besides the simple fact it's 64-bit is all. I would be happy with anything better than what I got now.

 

so you're saying the only thing AMD has got goin is the fact that its 64-bit??? and the rest of the chips are low quality? i dont think thats entirely true...but i think i see what you mean. The only resaon AMD is ahead of the game right now is the fact that it is 64-bit, and once Intel comes out it'll start moving ahead. i think by the time that comes AMD will already have a plan AGAIN and it wont be too long b4 they introduce yet again another chip that come out on top. but thats all a little way's away...here and now AMD is still the leader in almost all benchmarks and test comparisons. if you dont think so just go out on the internet lol...id say 85% of all tests are in favor of AMD...then you have like half of them being bogus or not througly tested.

 

QUOTE:::::::::4W4K3 (Newbie) 17 July 2004 08:24
so you're saying the only thing AMD has got goin is the fact that its 64-bit??? and the rest of the chips are low quality? i dont think thats entirely true.


I never said the other chips were low quality. I said Pentium is the best quality processor out. AMD is excellent quality also, I have an AMD processor and it works very well. I am guessing Pentium and AMD are both comparable quality, I just think the Pentium might be a tad better, sometimes you do get what you pay for, and Pentium has always been more expensive than AMD. I am talking comparable processors that is from both companys. I'm not going to say a Pentium 3 will cost you more than and AMD 64, I'm just saying pound for pound Pentium is the more expensive chip. Not including the AMD 64 line and the upper AMD class 3000+, I would say AMD is comparable to an Intel Celeron far as performance goes. As far as quality goes I hear the Celeron line are about the same as a Pentium, it's just the Celeron line are toned down alot and don't got the Pentium performace for obvious reasons it's a Budget processor. I think any processor that is current is good performance and quality, they gotta be. I would take either a Pentium or AMD if the stats are their that is all that really matters. I was just saying I think I would rather have an AMD 64 over any current Pentium out, maybe excluding the Xeon, but I am not rich. AMD tend to be more bang for the buck I have noticed over Pentium, they are much cheaper. You gotta pay a little extra for the Pentium name ya know. Both companys have cards that out do one another, as they evolve they get better. I think Pentium has a few tricks up it's sleeve, they are holding out on the P64, because right now the average consumer doesn't need a 64-bit processor, and in the 32-bit world the Pentium EE is kicking @ss. Soon enough Pentium will be coming out with it's 64-bit chip to the public and it will be beating out the AMD 64.

 

So you're saying AMD chips are equal to Celeron chips...wow, i think i'm getting dumber. The celeron's were budget, piece of crap (in my opinion i've owned 2) computer. This 2.5ghz mobile processor would beat a Celeron chip in many benchmarks if not all. Sure Intel may "have a few tricks up its sleeve" but that doesnt mean there holding ALL the cards. AMD was faster at producing the 64-bit technology, released it first, and now have a head start on Intel developing the next new breakthrough. AMD is at a constant rate of releasing there products...while Intel seems to hold back, then JUMP forward, then hold back, then JUMP back in the game again. As far as comparing quality...i seriously doubt you tell chip quality by going home and sticking it in your desktop. You'd need a lab and alot of hard actual research to see any kind of descrepincy between the 2. something the average user (me ad you) can never do. We are all griping and complaining about such nit picky details...seriously, did you ever REGRET buying Intel over AMD or visa versa. what you ahve is what you have...it seems ALOT of people here seem to be saying " AMD. no Intel, well AMD is good too, but Intel is beter here, unless your using AMD here..." geez its such a pointless argument.
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ABIT NF7-S Rev 2.0 (230*11)
512MB OCZ-EL PC-3200 Dual Channel Platinum (460MHz)
FIC RADEON 9200 64MB 8X AGP
http://www.bandbuilder.com/projektrevolution2004/index.php?ref_code=F53066[/small]

 

this was a dicision i had to make when buying my computer, to get a intel p4 3.06 (was the speed out) or to get the amd athlon 64 3200+ and whe i did all the pricing it was cheaper to get the A64 3200+ .....and in all the benchmarks the athlon 64 beat the intel....and i have not had one complaint about it yet, its fast and everything, and i am running windows xp pro so i am waiting for the windows 63 bit edition, so really anyone with the athlon 64 wont see its real power until they use the AMD 64 with the windows 64 bit edition,

as far a quality, im surr if i got the intel p4 3.06 it would be working just as good so for me it came down to price.

i do know so people whos computer run very slow and its not their hdd. my sister has a p4 3.06 laptop a dell, and it runs like shit. mine comp tho is a custom comp.


Edit- this argument will go on forever about which is better "Intel Vs. AMD"!!
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ATI 9800 pro all in wonder
Memorex dual x format
ps2 v10, Magic V 5K6[/small]

 

lol my bad. more of like a very selective few say it alot...hows that sound?

 

what is a [bold]Athlon64 3000+ with HT Soc 754 Retail Box[/bold] in INTEL PENTIUM 4 terms
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i just want a rough estimate performance wise [bold]PLEASE[/bold]

 

Ya what Praetor said..LOL

 

Wow I am a Noob and this thread is the shit. I was thinking bout building a computer and have around $750 to spend. And if possible with a P4 either 2.8 gHz or 3.0. I am just not sure about what motherboard,ram, and other things I need are.

 

Hi, Praetor and the rest. I just read this entire thread. For the last week I have been trying to research pc parts so I can build my own computer for the first time. I thought I knew enough about the specifications, components needed and compatibility, but I dont. I am so glad to have found this forum.
I plan on using my new pc for everything, like most people. I spend a lot of time on Adobe and Macromedia software's (Photoshop, Illustrator, flash etc.) I also play Halo, Fifa etc. My sister does a lot of video and audio editing. I spend most of my day on the internet for work. I usually have everything running simultaneously. I am sick of slow machines and would like to concentrate on speed as much as possible. I have saved about $1500 but am willing to go up to $2000 (not including monitor, printer etc). Ofcourse if its cheaper I would be happier. I agree with you and think a step below the fastest products out there is almost just as good and much cheaper.
I think I would like to stick with Intel on this machine. I would appreciate your help in finding components I should make my machine with. I would use your advice to build my research on. Thanx.