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The Official PC building thread!

Discussion in 'PC hardware help' started by souldoubt, May 11, 2004.

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  1. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    If it came new without a jumper, it may not necessarily need one. My old Seagate Medalist Hard drive didn't have a jumper and that worked fine with either one or two drives installed.
     
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    Some advice to anyone who wants to build there own PC. Do not be cheap when picking out a Power Supply. My Dell Power supply died, so I replaced it with the same one. 2 Days after I got my new power supply my motherboard went out. I purchased a upgraded motherboard from Dell. My CPU died. Now I feel like it would have been better to purchase a new PC now that I am out $500 bucks. I get my new CPU, and with in 2 month my Power supply went out killing my New motherboard on the way. I hade a 1 year on the Power Supply and motherboard so Dell sends me both of those free of charge. I decide I am not using that power supply so I didn't even bother to open the box. Instead I went to Frys and picked out a much better power supply. To this day I haven’t had another problem with my PC.

    Moral of the Story, DONT BUY A CHEAP POWER SUPPLY!

    ~Domreis
     
  3. sammorris

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    Here's my similar account to back your story up!

    Had an expensive PC which had become expensive by adding a then powerful graphics card, an X800 Pro. This required me to up the power of my 250W OEM supply, so I went for an ebuyer extra value 600W for £25. That failed almost instantly, incapable of putting out above 250W. Given I'd already spent money on a PSU, I spent another £25 on a Qtec 450W. Everything worked well for a year until I added some extra hard disks, making the total power of my system about 400W. No problem surely? Yes problem. The Qtec had no proper Overload protection, so with the extra power needed, destabilised and failed, destroying one of my old hard disks (200GB data lost), wiping another unrecoverably (another 40GB data lost), and also destroyed my floppy drive, one 512MB stick of RAM (fortunately the other 2 survived) and the lighting on my case. Total repair cost including a new proper PSU? £100. Total lost in part value? £120. Total lost in data? 240GB. So a £25 PSU cost me £220 and 240GB of data. Think about that next time you cheap on a PSU.

    I might also add that said PC performed perfectly after until it's replacement this July (the incident happened last October).
     
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    What memory do you recommend for the M2N-SLI Deluxe mobo? I'm looking for 2 gig of memory.

    Is this a good mobo to go with?
     
  5. sammorris

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    for AM2, that's pretty much the best board there is. I'd recommend Corsair XMS2 RAM, preferably of PC6400 standard or higher. It's a lot, but to get the best out of an AM2 system, that's what you should have.
     
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    $180 ain't expensive for 2GB. Here, standard DDR is £130 for 2GB, not even XMS, Value stuff. £130 is about $250! The XMS2 should be good and work well.
     
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    Has anyone heard of a computer burning out by adding psu with more watts since i need a new one for a new video card and some dell associate said it would? True?Not true?
     
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    p4 2.26 ghz, 768 ram, 1hd, 1cd burner 2-3 fans no soundcard and i have a 250 watt psu at the moment
     
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    He's telling lies, forcing you to not upgrade your Dell and let them do it. You could have a 1000W PSU run a system that needs 70W and it wouldn't care. BS of the highest order.

    What card were you adding? we may be able to recommend a PSU.
     
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    talking to him on msn. i said the same thing but to confirm it with you guyz. i reccomended him a 430w thermaltake and an x800gto like theonejrs. would that be sufficient for him??
     
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    well, it all depends what he's using it for. The best 430W PSU money buys is a Seasonic S12, but in the US that will also buy a Hiper 580W lol, US prices are odd!
    In the UK, a Seasonic 430 is £40 and a Hiper 580 £60. In the US, both are $100. I've not heard much good about TTake Power supplies, and given the build quality of some of their cases I'd be a bit dubious. Tell him to get this:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817189003
    and probably one of these
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130017
    That's sub $200 for a good PSU and Graphics card.
     
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    he has agp not pci-e though. now that makes it a bit tougher.
     
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    Ah, if AGP, then yes, that card, that exact one.
     
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    Whats a good power supply for an AMD 4200 X2 Dual Core, X1900 All-In-Wonder, ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe PC?


    Hiper?

     
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    the hiper is a great power supply, especially for its price. sometimes on newegg, it goes down to 89.99 usd. it would run that computer fairly easily.
     
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    It runs mine and my PC's very similar (see my signiature). Powerful, good looking and reliable units.
     
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