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The Ultimate Dream Computer

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by Praetor, May 29, 2004.

  1. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    I don't really care about i7 to be honest, other than the Socket 775 price drops ensuing from it.
     
  2. Ray92

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    I've seen a lot of people really amped up over i7/nehalem

    What's so special about it?? I don't get the hype

    A new CPU..ooooooooooooooooo o_O :p
     
  3. abuzar1

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    Uhhhh

    What is there NOT to be excited about? Almost as big a change as when we switched to Core 2 from what I have been so far.
     
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    next core 2 huh

    I guess I can see where the hype is coming from ;)
     
  6. sammorris

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    So from that bench it looks like a 30-40% boost over the QX9650, i.e. about equal to a 4Ghz Q9650 at stock. Not bad, but the fact that it only clocked to 3.7Ghz is a little concerning. The i7 965 is going to be a thousand dollars, the Q9650 is barely half that, and when overclocked by the looks of things the CPUs will only be 20% apart... That's not worth the cost of the new architecture for IMO.
     
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    So it's good (better than current), but not worth the price??
     
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    Correct.
     
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    Thanks for clearing that up
     
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    It looks like my 3.4GHz Quad is close to the speed of those processors stock. I know it's fast enough for 2 HD4870s in Crossfire. Core i7 looks impressive but is it necessary yet? My Quad flies on the newest games and benchmarks.

    That plus Core i7 looks more like it is for servers than gaming rigs. Do you need all the newest tech to use it? If my X38 board can't handle it, I don't even care about it. It's too expensive for me anyway then.
     
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    It needs a $300 X58 board with DDR3, which is exactly why I don't give a damn about it.
     
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    My point exactly. DDR3 isn't all that great and my X38 board is still well capable and quite high end. i7 is a speed boost I don't even need. I'm not interested one bit.
     
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    I don't understand this. When Core 2 came out it was expensive as well. People pay 300 dollars for motherboards all the time. Who says cheaper ones wont come out?
     
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    Don't worry people will come 'round eventually ;)

    It's just that Core 2 is good enough ATM and people don't want to spend lots of money just to have the latest gear.
    I see their logic as well
     
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    The AMDX2s were "good enough" as well.
     
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    Yeah, but with "super titles" like Crysis, Far Cry 2, Call of Duty 4. All of them benefit greatly from Core 2 Duo architecture. Remember I had an OC'd X2 4400+ at 2.6GHz with an X1800XT 512MB for like 2 years. It was a sweet system and still would be had I kept it.

    But i7 wasn't needed yet. My Q6600 is still perfect for my video cards, which are some of the fastest ever made. And it's overkill for every game ever made, save Crysis which is a poorly coded system hog. Tell me why I need i7. Athlon 64 and Pentium 4 were competitive for a long time. And Core 2 Duo's been out for what, 2 years now? It's still fast and new.

    Granted, Athlon 64 X2 systems are still formidable. I wanted to try a 6400+ with 2 8800GTs before I sold my SLI board. That would be a sufficiently fast system for my resolution. I don't hate A64s. I just moved on. My parents are perfectly happy with their 2.4GHz X2 though. And they play some games on it too. It's still well capable at games.
     
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    Difference is, when Core 2s came out you didn't need to spend $1000 to get a CPU that was better than what we already had. Only $400 would get that job done easy, the E6600 beat all the X2s before it hands down. With i7 you need the ludicrously expensive 965 for it to be worthwhile.
     
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    Decent enough I suppose. It's not a GREAT deal.

    DEF. not Ultimate computer material ;)
     
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    Okey Dokey, yeah I knew it was not a hot rod, but was wondering if it was a good enough middle of the road type unit.
     

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