Hmmm! _X_X_X_X_X_[small] Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." Sherlock Holmes (by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, 1859-1930)[/small]
Junk sale. University gets new stuff all the time. Buddy of mine bought a polugraph machine for $25 (he bought it for the rack ... he's into this rackmount stuff) Would we? Not a lot of uses for 64bit outside of math/video stuff. The hardware support for 64bit (i.e., mass RAM) first requires that we HAVE the hardware (i.e., that RAM)
I would disagree, if windows can get us to upgrade and spend more money they will. Any excuse they can get I think there will release new more expensive version and trap you into using it.
Tough call, that leaves me kind of stuck in the middle. Praetor’s right for now, even when 64 bit XP (Windows whatever version) is available it will have limited use for most people but I’m one of the exceptions since I am into the video stuff. Most 64 bit uses will be application dependent and that’s only if there’s a benefit which goes back to what Praetor was saying, number crunching and video compression.
Sophocles, Dont get me wrong, I love AMD. They provide a superior product per dollar, and 64 bit will be the future. It's just a matter of time. However, Pentium 4 - 2.8 to 3.0 Prescott's or Northwood's are beating the pants off AMD 64 chips in video encoding. The AMD's are superior in gaming and multiemedia, but right now, without 64 bit software, Intel has got the edge in video. sf
superflex Check the threads that I post often on AD and you'll see that I'm really into video encoding. It's true that Intel has a slight edge in video encoding but it’s only slight since we're talking a difference measured in seconds, and there is also the absence of 64 bit operating system as well. BTW, you need to read my post a little clearer because nowhere in that post did I state that I used an AMD processor. I’m using a 2.8 GHz P4 overclocked to 3.149. Now back to hurricane preparations. _X_X_X_X_X_[small] Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." Sherlock Holmes (by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, 1859-1930)[/small]
Athlon 64's are generally better for gaming due to the on board memory controller. The pentium fours are better at video encoding and memory bandwidth sensitive applications.
Again in most cases we're not talking major differences in performance (usually only a few frames0 the faster P4's also do a great job with gaming. In regards to 64 bit, Intel will come on board eventually in fact they're already working on it because they know that when a 64 bit operating system becomes available along with 64 bit applications they're going to out in the cold.
I call it the "You're Sick" computer system for HD Video SC933S2-R760 Enclosure X5DAE-G2 Motherboard Xeon 3.6 1M 800 Xeon 3.6 1M 800 512Mb DDR2 400 ECC 512Mb DDR2 400 ECC 3DLabs Realizm 800 PCI-Extreme DeckLink HD Pro DeckLink Multibridge Sony DRX-700UL LSI MegaRaid 320-2X 256cache 2.5" SATA Seagate momentus 7200.1 146Gb U320 drive 80pin Ch1 146Gb U320 drive 80pin Ch2 146Gb U320 drive 80pin Ch1 146Gb U320 drive 80pin Ch2 146Gb U320 drive 80pin Ch1 146Gb U320 drive 80pin Ch2 146Gb U320 drive 80pin Ch1 146Gb U320 drive 80pin Ch2 146Gb U320 drive 80pin Ch1 146Gb U320 drive 80pin Ch2 146Gb U320 drive 80pin Ch1 146Gb U320 drive 80pin Ch2 146Gb U320 drive 80pin Ch1 146Gb U320 drive 80pin Ch2 $16471.50
eventual Do you do video encoding? More specifically do you use DVDrebuilder with Cinema Craft Encoder? If you do I'd be interested in hearing about the enocde time on your system.
That's my "Dream Computer". Of course I use a watered down variant, X5DAE,2.8Ghz Xeons,DDR200,MatroxVideo,Pinnacle DVD2000 Capture,AdaptecRAID,U320 drives, same enclosure. I use other systems (twins) for the CAD(Wildcat) and Authoring(Nvidia) stages. They're my triplets. What's missing for me is the DeckLink Multibridge so I can capture with the DeckLink HD. Also missing is CCE. This is why I can't encode an AC3. (!!!) thx! I LOVE decrypter. Right now it's burning with the DRU120A / DRU700UL flawlessly and supports the DVR-s201 but I'm out of media right now... I'm sorting through many authoring applications now. Will be posting in that section soon about my findings. I love em all. I'm having a blast. (They all work) Encoding rates? The process is slow, which part? Usually I capture MP2 so encoding is fast, 1:1. That's if I'm not adjusting the compression level. If I make changes to the GOP or bitrate, it slows to 2:1. I have the DVD2000 (dc2000) card to thank for this, though. When I get CCE going, I'll make a post. I need another way to encode besides hardware encoders. CCE sounds perfect. This is an awesome website. Another part of my Dream Computer includes this indestructo flight case (so you can take em' on VACATION!!) called the Xero Warrior; best set of pictures here- http://www.atlascases.com/rotorack.html Various other capture cards as well, could go on and on-
Cleaned _X_X_X_X_X_[small] Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." Sherlock Holmes (by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, 1859-1930)[/small]
Sorry Praetor I thought he'd built the system he posted and Video compression is an excellent way to measure performance. It drifted a bit from there. _X_X_X_X_X_[small]Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."[/small]
Even though, I still think the Xeons are part of the dream computer. I am getting really great rates as I have posted in the DVD-9 Authoring forum. The next essential addition is a nice flight case. I always dreamt of rolling away with the set of computers, roll into the van, down the road I go. The flight case has shock-mounts. Sorry, back to the horsepower at hand.
for me my dream computer LGA 775 Intel®Pentium® 4 3.6GHz Processor with HT Technology 800MHz FSB 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 533 Memory Architecture with ECC Support 256 MB NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra Intel High Definition Audio HDD 120GB Serial ATA(150MB/s) DVDRW&DVDR Burner CDR&CDRW Burner Floppy disk 8-USB Ports Dual Gigabit LAN connectivity Wireless Connectivity TV CARD but now i am using intel pantium 4 3.0GHz With HT(1MB) 800MHz FSB 512MB Dual Channel DDR PC400 128MB FX5600 Intel High Definition Audio 80GB Serial ATA DVDRW&DVDR Burner CDR&CDRW Burner Floppy disk 8-USB Ports Dual Gigabit LAN connectivity TV card _X_X_X_X_X_[small]intel P4 3.0GHz 512mb pc400 fx5200 128mb dvd burner and cdr burner[/small]
Spec Budget £1000: Vapochill XE case (gets CPU down to -30oC) Pentium 4 (extreme ed) 3.4ghz @ 4.4ghz 2GB DDR-400 Kingston RAM Abit mobo w. i875p chipset 120Gb Seagate 7200rpm Generic Cd-rw Drive Generic Floppy Drive 19" CRT monitor Windows Xp Home OEM O/S _X_X_X_X_X_[small]CPU: AMD athlon 2800+ XP Motherboard: Quasar(MSI) MS-6786 RAM: 768mb 2700 DDR GFX: 128mb Geforce FX5900XT (overclocked) HDD: Seagate 120GB, 7200rpm[/small]