UK Users - Nagra 3 - Where we stand - Are you missing chans, A Rescan is all you can DO? and Updated with N3 areas in UK

sat is your only choice after N3 untill a fix or new box is released that will cope with N3, this could be years.

Do some research and you will have a sat setup in no time before the switch

 

Yes for sat, if anyone here is interested in sharing my card please send me a pm.

 

just be careful mate with what yer doing

 

Hi there folks

i have just read Mickah post and have found it very informative and helpful. So thank you.

I have the starview1 and have hads lots of help from you guys in the past and hopefully in the future.

keep up the good work guys and girls

 

new list

Latest List

- Aylesbury (Receiving new cards as part of Watford headend)
- Barnsley (Rec new cards)
- Bedfordshire including Bedford Sandy, Biggleswade, Dunstable, Luton (set to receive new cards)
- Bedford (received cards today)
- Bells Hill
- Bolton
- Bournemouth / Poole - (Recieved Cards)
- Bradford (set to receive new cards)
- Brighton
- Cardiff (set to receive new cards)
- Casltford (set to receive new cards)
- Chesham (Receiving new cards as part of Watford headend)
- Cheshire including Warrington, Widnes
- Chiltern Hills (Receiving new cards as part of Watford headend)
- Cleethorpes
- Coventry (set to receive new cards)
- Croxley Green
- Derbyshire (Receiving new cards)Reports that Derby is now N3
- Dewsbury (Receiving new cards)
- Dunbartonshire in Scotland
- Dundee in Scotland
- Durham
- Essex including (Romford, Ilford, Rainham receiving new cards)
- Falkirk in Scotland
- Fife in Scotland received new cards
- Gateshead
- Glasgow in Scotland
- Grimsby (set to receive new cards)
- Halifax (set to receive new cards)
- Hampshire including Gosport, Aldershot, Farnborough
- Harrogate - On Nagra 3 now
- Hartlepool
- Hertfordshire including Hemel Hempstead, (Watford, Rickmansworth, Stevenage, Hitchin, Letchworth, Ware, Hertford, Hoddesdon, Cheshunt, South Hertfordshire receiving new cards) - Reports that Watford / Herts now on Nagra 3
- Horley
- Huddersfield On Nagra 3
- Humberside
- Immingham
- Keighley (set to receive new cards)
- Kent including (Swanley, Bexley, receiving new cards)
- Kirklees including Dewsbury, Batley On Nagra 3
- Lancashire including Chorley, Preston, Burnley, Nelson, Accrington, Colne, Blackburn
- Leeds - On Nagra 3 Now - Batley outside Leeds, (Reveived cards)
- Leicestershire (set to receive new cards)
- Lincolnshire (set to receive new cards as part of Nottingham headend)
- Liverpool
- London 41050 including Harrow (East London, South London, Seven Kings receiving new cards) Ilford on Nagra 3 and Seven Kings on Nagra 3 Hayes on N3
- Lothian in Scotland including Edinburgh city
- Manchester including Swinton, Salford, Stretford, Wigan (Manchester set to receive new cards)
- Middlesbrough
- Middlesex including Staines
- Newcastle
- Newcastle-under-Lyme
- North & South Lanarkshire in Scotland
- North Shields
- Norwich (set to receive new cards)
- Nottinghamshire (set to receive new cards)
- Oldham
- Paisley in Scotland
- Portsmouth (Receiving new cards)
- Rotherham
- Rugby (set to receive new cards)
- Scun'thorpe
- Sheffield
- Solent (set to receive new cards)
- Southampton
- South Humberside (set to receive new cards as part of Nottingham headend)
- South Shields
- South Tyneside
- St. Helens
- Stockton-on-Tees
- Stoke-on-Trent
- Sunderland
- Surrey including Guildford, Woking, Frimley, Farnham, Camberley, Epsom
- Sussex including (Crawley receiving new cards)
- Teesside
- Tonbridge including Tonbridge wells, Edenbridge, Lower Surrey (set to receive new cards)
- Uddingston in Scotland
- Warrington (set to receive new cards)
- Wednesbury in West Midlands (Receiving new cards)
- Wirral
- Wales (set to receive new cards)
- York - On Nagra 3 Now



- *** NORTHERN IRELAND (Set to get new cards)***


Areas switched over to Nagra 3
- Acton London
- Ashford
- Aylesbury
- Barking
- Batley
- Bexleyheath
- Bournemouth / Poole
- Chesham
- Chiltern Hills
- Chingford
- Dagenham
- Dartford
- Derbyshire
- Dewsbury
- Dover
- East Ham London
- East London
- Essex 1 (N*l/Excw parts only)
- Folkestone
- Harrogate
- Huddersfield (N*l parts only)
- Ilford
- Kirklees
- Leeds
- Mirfield
- Poole
- Rainham
- Rickmansworth
- Romford (Excw parts only)
- Seven Kings
- Shepherds Bush
- Southampton (Excw parts only)
- South Hertfordshire
- St Albans (Excw parts only)
- Swanley
- Upton Park
- Waltham Abbey
- Walthamstow
- Watford
- Wessex
- West Yorkshire (N*l parts only)
- York

 

please be aware that upc are now sniffing on their bb service and are throttling some services to combat the c/s servers this will happen more and more so if you have upc BB and you are using the Sv6 box via lan change your BB provider or you will have problems

 

new list as of today

- Aylesbury (Receiving new cards as part of Watford headend)
- Barnsley (Rec new cards)
- Bedfordshire including Bedford Sandy, Biggleswade, Dunstable, Luton (set to receive new cards)
- Bedford (received cards today)
- Bells Hill
- Bolton
- Bournemouth / Poole - (Recieved Cards)
- Bradford (set to receive new cards)
- Brighton Recieved new cards now on N3
- Cardiff (set to receive new cards)
- Casltford (set to receive new cards)
- Chesham (Receiving new cards as part of Watford headend)
- Cheshire including Warrington, Widnes
- Chiltern Hills (Receiving new cards as part of Watford headend)
- Cleethorpes
- Coventry (set to receive new cards)
- Croxley Green
- Derbyshire (Receiving new cards)Reports that Derby is now N3
- Dewsbury (Receiving new cards)
- Dunbartonshire in Scotland
- Dundee in Scotland
- Durham
- Essex including (Romford, Ilford, Rainham receiving new cards)
- Falkirk in Scotland
- Fife in Scotland received new cards
- Gateshead
- Glasgow in Scotland
- Grimsby (set to receive new cards)
- Halifax (set to receive new cards)
- Hampshire including Gosport, Aldershot, Farnborough
- Harrogate - On Nagra 3 now
- Hartlepool
- Hertfordshire including Hemel Hempstead, (Watford, Rickmansworth, Stevenage, Hitchin, Letchworth, Ware, Hertford, Hoddesdon, Cheshunt, South Hertfordshire receiving new cards) - Reports that Watford / Herts now on Nagra 3
- Horley
- Huddersfield On Nagra 3
- Humberside
- Immingham
- Keighley (set to receive new cards)
- Kent including (Swanley, Bexley, receiving new cards)
- Kirklees including Dewsbury, Batley On Nagra 3
- Lancashire including Chorley, Preston, Burnley, Nelson, Accrington, Colne, Blackburn
- Leeds - On Nagra 3 Now - Batley outside Leeds, (Reveived cards)
- Leicestershire (set to receive new cards)
- Lincolnshire (set to receive new cards as part of Nottingham headend)
- Liverpool
- London 41050 including Harrow (East London, South London, Seven Kings receiving new cards) Ilford on Nagra 3 and Seven Kings on Nagra 3 Hayes on N3
- Lothian in Scotland including Edinburgh city
- Manchester including Swinton, Salford, Stretford, Wigan (Manchester set to receive new cards)
- Middlesbrough
- Middlesex including Staines
- Newcastle
- Newcastle-under-Lyme
- North & South Lanarkshire in Scotland
- North Shields
- Norwich (set to receive new cards)
- Nottinghamshire (set to receive new cards)
- Oldham
- Paisley in Scotland
- Portsmouth (Receiving new cards)
- Rotherham
- Rugby (set to receive new cards)
- Scun'thorpe
- Sheffield
- Solent (set to receive new cards)
- Southampton
- South Humberside (set to receive new cards as part of Nottingham headend)
- South Shields
- South Tyneside
- St. Helens
- Stockton-on-Tees
- Stoke-on-Trent
- Sunderland
- Surrey including Guildford, Woking, Frimley, Farnham, Camberley, Epsom
- Sussex including (Crawley receiving new cards)
- Teesside
- Tonbridge including Tonbridge wells, Edenbridge, Lower Surrey (set to receive new cards)
- Uddingston in Scotland
- Warrington (set to receive new cards)
- Wednesbury in West Midlands (Receiving new cards)
- Wirral
- Wales (set to receive new cards)
- York - On Nagra 3 Now



- *** NORTHERN IRELAND (Set to get new cards)***


Areas switched over to Nagra 3
- Acton London
- Ashford
- Aylesbury
- Barking
- Batley
- Bexleyheath
- Bournemouth
- Brighton
- Chesham
- Chiltern Hills
- Chingford
- Dagenham
- Dartford
- Derbyshire
- Dewsbury
- Dover
- East Ham London
- East London
- Essex 1 (N*l/Excw parts only)
- Folkestone
- Harrogate
- Huddersfield (N*l parts only)
- Ilford
- Kirklees
- Leeds
- Mirfield
- Poole
- Rainham
- Rickmansworth
- Romford (Excw parts only)
- Seven Kings
- Shepherds Bush
- Southampton (Excw parts only)
- South Hertfordshire
- St Albans (Excw parts only)
- Swanley
- Upton Park
- Waltham Abbey
- Walthamstow
- Watford
- Wessex
- West Yorkshire (N*l parts only)
- York

 

i see that dundee is on the list. i got my new card around 3 weeks ago but still able to get all channels with no problems at present

 

It takes a couple of weeks for it to change over once you see missing channles you will know it happening asian ones go first then movie etc

 

thats 4weeks fife has had new cards and still all working here for how much longer who knows

 

excatly providers are not going to actually give out that information as i have said one day you will switch on your box and it will be gone so until then enjoy what you have now

 

could anybody provide a list of what channels are still working once the changeover has happened in there area is it all channels gone or just premium channels mine is only used for channel 1-5 and nick jr for the kids as we dont have a tv aerial

 

All will be gone once N3 kicks in just like ireland everything gone since Aug 2009

 

Hi

Quick message for mikah or any other senior pro`s on here.

Ive been following the thread for quite a while and am looking for info regarding birmingham. I see it is mainly NTL Areas that are going down and receiv ing new cards and no telewest areas of yet.

Just wondering if the telewest receivers we have will be appropriate or will they have to update those as well for us in TW area?

Also another bit of into if you can help. Im thinking of getting a STARVIEW HD COMBO as i have a motorised dish and wondered if you can do card share with these receivers as you do with the starview 6?

I would be interested in both sat and cable card share between boxes in my home.

Thanks in advance and if you have any links to a current library such as eamos old i would appreciate it

 

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i am in leicestershire (barwell) and i recieved this lovely new shiney card through the post today

 

i was thinking of getting that tattoed on my todger!!

@skunka - I wouldnt buy a combo box now mate, go for either a dreambox box which is linux and opensource or go for a protek or similar,

 

I have read this thread with interest. Some comments have made me smile.

There a couple of things I would like to point out. VOD services are provided to people who want/need the system to be plug and play. They are mostly non technical users, therefore the service needs to be a black-box solution. Nagaravision is a company that provide Content providers the ability to encrypt their data stream at the source (their datacenters) which requires a device at the remote location (your home) to un-encrypt the data stream so that you can watch the content on your TV.

It needs to be a simple solution in order for this black-box approach

In its simplest forms, encryption is a door lock. If you want to open the door, you need a key. The same goes for Nagravision. In order to unlock the encryption you need the key.

Nagravision are realistic in their approach. They "Know" their keys will be comprimised and they do the same as you would do if you lost your door key, you have to change the lock, which means the old key wont work and you need to use the new key. This is why they have built their service around a "Dynamic" solution.

Every now and then, they actually change the "type" of lock they use and not just the key you need to open it. This is what is happening currently and is what the term Nagra 3 is actually referring to. They are changing the type of lock.

Ok, so what does that mean for you?

Well, firstly, lets look at how official users will be getting the new Nagra 3 service. They are getting a new card, however their set-top boxes are not being replaced. This means that the existing boxes can recieve Nagra 3 and the changes to the set-top box is purely a software change/modification. There would be no reason therefore to suggest that un-official set-top boxes that can currently recieve the Nagra 2 service would require anything more than the same change/modification.

It is possible and more likely probable, that the new cards being sent out not only contain the key, but also software that works in conjunction with the set-top box software. This could facilitate the inclusion
of some sort of rolling keychange, where the lock changes every few minutes, making set-top boxes that require manual key input to work, pretty much defunct. This is the Industry standard method for systems requireing authenticated access now, therefore it would be reasonable to assume that Nagravision have at least investigated this route and would certainaly have this on their roadmap.

However, whatever their new approach I will say this. Nagra 3 will lead to Nagra 4 and beyond. Why? Because no system is hackproof. Indeed as I said earlier, Nagravision "expect" their systems to be hacked and why their main selling point is their Dynamic approach and ability to change.

So why no fix yet?

I would think there probably is, but the scene wont release it until a greater percentage of systems have been switched over, purely for the reason that it wouldnt be too late for Nagra to get the scene code, reverse engineer it and patch their own code to make the scene release defunct.

This will be harder to do once Nagra 3 if fully up and running, not without great expense.

So my suggestion is to wait and see. Don't jump ship just yet. There are a fantastic group of very intelligent guys out there that do this stuff for nothing more that the Kudos of being able to say nah, nah nah, nah nah nah.

 

First of all can i thank Mikah for prompt response to my question and i will deffinately take what you said on board.

Second of all Nivenj you have spoke the exact words i have been mulling over for a while. As with everything in life nothing is beyond possability

You have spoke much sense my friend and i just hope your words turn out to be as true as they read

 

nivenj: Absolutely briliant.
Hope at last?

 

latest list

- Aylesbury (Receiving new cards as part of Watford headend)
- Barnsley (Rec new cards)
- Bedfordshire including Bedford Sandy, Biggleswade, Dunstable, Luton (set to receive new cards)
- Bedford (received cards today)
- Bells Hill
- Birmingham [Set to receive new cards] n3 in stream today]
- Bolton
- Bournemouth / Poole - (Recieved Cards)
- Bradford (set to receive new cards)
- Brighton Recieved new cards now on N3
- Cardiff (set to receive new cards)
- Casltford (set to receive new cards)
- Chesham (Receiving new cards as part of Watford headend)
- Cheshire including Warrington, Widnes
- Chiltern Hills (Receiving new cards as part of Watford headend)
- Cleethorpes
- Coventry (set to receive new cards)
- Croxley Green
- Derbyshire (Receiving new cards)Reports that Derby is now N3
- Dewsbury (Receiving new cards)
- Dunbartonshire in Scotland
- Dundee in Scotland
- Durham
- Essex including (Romford, Ilford, Rainham receiving new cards)
- Falkirk in Scotland
- Fife in Scotland received new cards
- Gateshead
- Glasgow in Scotland
- Grimsby (set to receive new cards)
- Halifax (set to receive new cards)
- Hampshire including Gosport, Aldershot, Farnborough
- Harrogate - On Nagra 3 now
- Hartlepool
- Hertfordshire including Hemel Hempstead, (Watford, Rickmansworth, Stevenage, Hitchin, Letchworth, Ware, Hertford, Hoddesdon, Cheshunt, South Hertfordshire receiving new cards) - Reports that Watford / Herts now on Nagra 3
- Horley
- Huddersfield On Nagra 3
- Humberside
- Immingham
- Keighley (set to receive new cards)
- Kent including (Swanley, Bexley, receiving new cards)
- Kirklees including Dewsbury, Batley On Nagra 3
- Lancashire including Chorley, Preston, Burnley, Nelson, Accrington, Colne, Blackburn
- Leeds - On Nagra 3 Now - Batley outside Leeds, (Reveived cards)
- Leicestershire (set to receive new cards)
- Lincolnshire (set to receive new cards as part of Nottingham headend)
- Liverpool
- London 41050 including Harrow (East London, South London, Seven Kings receiving new cards) Ilford on Nagra 3 and Seven Kings on Nagra 3 Hayes on N3
- Lothian in Scotland including Edinburgh city
- Manchester including Swinton, Salford, Stretford, Wigan (Manchester set to receive new cards)
- Middlesbrough
- Middlesex including Staines
- Newcastle
- Newcastle-under-Lyme
- North & South Lanarkshire in Scotland
- North Shields
- Norwich (set to receive new cards)
- Nottinghamshire (set to receive new cards)
- Oldham
- Paisley in Scotland
- Portsmouth (Receiving new cards)
- Rotherham
- Rugby (set to receive new cards)
- Scun'thorpe
- Sheffield
- Solent (set to receive new cards)
- Southampton
- South Humberside (set to receive new cards as part of Nottingham headend)
- South Shields
- South Tyneside
- St. Helens
- Stockton-on-Tees
- Stoke-on-Trent
- Sunderland - Cards Recd
- Surrey including Guildford, Woking, Frimley, Farnham, Camberley, Epsom
- Sussex including (Crawley receiving new cards)
- Teesside
- Tonbridge including Tonbridge wells, Edenbridge, Lower Surrey (set to receive new cards)
- Uddingston in Scotland
- Warrington (set to receive new cards)
- Wednesbury in West Midlands (Receiving new cards)
- Wirral
- Wales (set to receive new cards)
- York - On Nagra 3 Now



- *** NORTHERN IRELAND (Set to get new cards)***


Areas switched over to Nagra 3
- Acton London
- Ashford
- Aylesbury
- Barking
- Batley
- Bexleyheath
- Bournemouth
- Brighton
- Chesham
- Chiltern Hills
- Chingford
- Dagenham
- Dartford
- Derbyshire
- Dewsbury
- Dover
- East Ham London
- East London
- Essex 1 (N*l/Excw parts only)
- Folkestone
- Harrogate
- Huddersfield (N*l parts only)
- Ilford
- Kirklees
- Leeds
- Mirfield
- Poole
- Rainham
- Rickmansworth
- Romford (Excw parts only)
- Seven Kings
- Shepherds Bush
- Southampton (Excw parts only)
- South Hertfordshire
- St Albans (Excw parts only)
- Swanley
- Upton Park
- Waltham Abbey
- Walthamstow
- Watford
- Wessex
- West Yorkshire (N*l parts only)
- York