Don't know if this was already mentioned elsewhere. I got a letter from UPC. Translation, we are replacing all nagra 1 boxes with nagra 2 ones. We will still stream both nagra 1 & 2 signals until all customers have nagra 2 boxes. When all boxes are exchanged the nagra 1 stream will be turned off, and all dodgy boxes will not work. This could be months away, especially if the appointments everybody asks for are at 2am saturday night, and you don't answer the door. By that time the new system should be hacked, already is in other countries AFAIK. From what I hear some boxes might not be able to handle nagra 2, or will need software from the manufactures, while linux based boxes should be first to have updates.