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VHS Tapes to DVD

Discussion in 'Video capturing from analog sources' started by eddieb, Oct 27, 2003.

  1. vitaebank

    vitaebank Guest

    Minion, great thanks. More...
    I don't have the cash to buy CCE SP, which encoder can i use to give me excellent quality?
    I'm only mindful of quality not time in this project so i think the MPEG Pro might deny me this. Please tell me more about the MPEG PRO as compared to using the ADVC-300 and TBC-1000. You raised thoughts in my head when you talked about it.
    Which TBC do you recommend that is in the ranks of the Datavideo TBC-1000.

    Regards, VB.
     
  2. vitaebank

    vitaebank Guest

    Minion, forgot two.
    What professional software should i use to capture to dv avi that will incorporate AC3.
    I'm planning to use DVD-Lab to author.
    Please recommend a good burner i should use.

    Regards, VB.
     
  3. samintx

    samintx Regular member

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    I'm interested in the Pro, also...and your "quality" experiences. I don't care about anything but QUALITY. To me getting the Videos transfered has to have quality or I don't want it.
     
  4. Minion

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    vitaebank: There are Professinal Quality encoders out there without the professinal Quality Price...Instead of "CCE SP" Try "CCE Basic" as it Produces simulr quality and encodes Just as Fast it just doesn"t have the Advanced Features that the "SP" version has...

    Or you Can Try "Canopus Procoder Express" which Produces simulr quality as Procoder but is Much Cheaper...

    Also the "MainConcept Encoder" is a very Good Professinal Quality encoder and very fast But much cheaper than other Professinal Encoders Like CCE SP or Procoder....

    I don"t really know what you mean by this :

    You Can not Capture to DV AVI and have the audio be Dolby AC3...If you want your Audio to be AC3 for the DVD you are going to have to encode the Audio to Dolby AC3...
    What I use to encode the Audio for my DVD"s to Dolby AC3 is
    "Sony Vegas Video 5" ..It will Let you capture your DV AVI files and edit them and Render them as Mpeg-2(.M2V) and Dolby AC3 then you Just Import the files into your DVD authoring program and author them to DVD....

    As for the "Canopus MpegPro" hardware Mpeg encoders I suspect that you would still achieve better quality with the ADVC-300 and the Files are easier to work with than mpeg files are..I only suggested it because it would save you a Lot of Time especially if you didn"t have to do any editing but I don"t think the quality would be Quite as Good...

    From what I have heard the "Datavideo TBC-1000" is the Best TBC you can Get in it"s Price Range..Others are anywere from 3 to 10 times more expensive ...So if you were to get a TBC it would be the One to get...
    I would suggest that you Not get the TBC Right away and Just Try useing the ADVC-300 and see how well it"s Built in TBC works for you and if you still have Problems with an Unstable Picture and other artifacts then try it with the "Datavideo TBC-1000", as there is no reason to spend a Bunch of money on something that you Might not need especially when the Money could be spent on other equipment or software that will serve you better .....

    Cheers
     
  5. rebootjim

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    Bullshit.
    If the device can write at 2x, then any disk capable of 2x and UP will work.
    If the device can write at 8x, don't try and use a 2x disk.
    Just use a disk that's rated the same speed OR FASTER than the recorder.

    Sony Vegas Movie Studio 4 will do it all in one application. Just an idea :)
     
  6. pfh

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    Thanks Reboot, I didn't think I was nuts! I was hoping someone would back me up! Pfh....................
     
  7. samintx

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    Rebootjim, I wish you would tell that to all the blank DVDs I have sitting around that will not burn in the Toshiba standalone. I think I have some expertise in this area with 3 units and you cannot put just any old X speed in the standalone. Bull shit or not ! ! !
     
  8. samintx

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    reboot...if you don't believe me read the manuals for the older models (I think sony is up to 4x or 8x now) or call the tech dept for certain models.
     
  9. rebootjim

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    I didn't say it was foolproof. If YOUR toshi or whatever can't do it, I would assume a media incompatibility, NOT a speed issue.
    I too have blanks that won't work in certain brands. This has nothing (in my experience) to do with the recording speed of the unit. I've used no-name, TY's, and lots of other "brand names", some made in Taiwan, some in Japan, some in Mexico, and it's trial and error. Some work, some don't.
     
  10. pfh

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    What you are saying doesn't make sense- think about it.
    Or maybe we're talking about 2 different things but the way I read it is, you claim a 2x drive can't use 4,8,16 or higher rated discs!
    When in fact a "high" speed disc can be used in lower speed drives.
    If your statement were fact then you'd have consumers with near useless drives in less than a year!

    On the other hand the + and - TYPE can make a difference.

    On another note Sony, Toshiba and others probebly don't even MAKE the drives installed in their machines.
     
  11. samintx

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    No you are wrong. Stand alone recorders are not the same as a DVD recorder hooked to your computer. Believe me I know. has nothing to do with media incompatibility. I have experience and know whereof I speak. Also Philips standalone. You are wrong and I'm not inclined to call someone dead wrong.
     
  12. samintx

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    Get it thru your head you guys. I'm talking a dedicated unit not a drive you buy to hookup to your computer. I know about that. You are not reading and understand what I'm saying. There are standalone units that look like DVD players...like an amplifier not the little square units you hook up to a PC or mac.

    A standalong unit cannot have the firmware upgraded unless it can be done at the factory. You don't know what a standalone unit is....
     
  13. rebootjim

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    Your experience must be unique then.
    I have a toshi 4x, a panasonic 8x, and a jvc 2x, and some work better with +, some with -. Some work better with the yellow dye, some the blue/purple. Some work better with 4x 8x and even 16x, but NEVER have I found the speed rating of the disk made the slightest bit of difference.
     
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    It is in the manual and unless the units are later units 1-2x is top speed. Sony just came out with a unit that will play 8x which is top speed for a standalone recorder. Now don't write back you have a Sony that will write at 16x or 24x because we are not talking oranges and oranges.
     
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    I didn't say that.
    I said the speed rating of the disk makes no difference, provided it is rated AT or ABOVE the max speed of the recorder.
    You can't even buy 2x disks any more, so you're telling me that everyone with a 2x recorder now has an expensive door stop?
     
  16. pfh

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    Samintx said- "A standalong unit cannot have the firmware upgraded unless it can be done at the factory. You don't know what a standalone unit is.... " and "It is in the manual and unless the units are later units 1-2x is top speed. Sony just came out with a unit that will play 8x which is top speed for a standalone recorder. Now don't write back you have a Sony that will write at 16x or 24x because we are not talking oranges and oranges."

    But what does this have to do with the topic? Wouldn't matter if you could firmware update really. I'll even go so far as to say that the difference between a PC dvd drive and stand-alone dvd drive are in fact essentially identical!! The only difference being the connection and contoller chip.
    The top speed rating of a drive is one thing and the top speed a particular disc can be written to is A WHOLE other topic. The only relationship they have is...........none really. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY DON'T MAKE 2X DISCS ANYMORE!

    Your experience is indeed unique and if I were you I'd be screaming at whoever sold you those units cause you got a RAW deal if you can't use the ubiquitous 8x or more discs. Your basically sitting on 500 2x discs that are worthless (except to you of course)
     
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  17. samintx

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    No, boys...all the first units that came out could only write 1-2x. Or didn't you know. I still think you are not getting it and know what kind of recorder I'm talking about.

    Yes, I just bought 500 1-2x disks at a great price. And happily recording away in my living room off Tivo...no computer, just the recorder, Tivo and a TV screen. I am waiting for the price of the Sony and others to come down that record on 4-8x.

    Meanwhile my Toshiba standalone and Philips work beautifully on the 2x Disks.


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  18. rebootjim

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    That's nice...
    I still haven't seen a 1x, 2x or 4x standalone that wouldn't write to an 8x disk.
    The idea that a 2x machine can only write to a 2x disk is preposterous.
     
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    http://www2.shopping.com/xGS-Lite_On_5005~NS-1~linkin_id-3062995

    I don't own this Lite-on standalone recorder but they have just started making ones that would write on 4x. Believe me I do this 24 hrs a day and know what I'm talking about. As I said I think the new Sony unit will write to 8X but not sure if it 8 or 4. I'm signing out on the whole subject because I know I am right. ..you must be confusing the square boxes added to computers.
     
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    OK, if you insist.
    The whole idea that a 2x standalone DVD recorder (of any make) can ONLY write to a 2x disk is still (IMHO) preposterous.
    If that is so, then everyone with a 2x recorder is very pissed off now, because they can no longer purchase 2x disks.
    I guess I just don't understand your logic.
     

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