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VHS Tapes to DVD

Discussion in 'Video capturing from analog sources' started by eddieb, Oct 27, 2003.

  1. Minion

    Minion Senior member

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    I don"t Know Much about the "Snazzy" but it doesn"t sound very Promising....The only Snazzy products that I have heard of were quite Old and from what I heard about them they were not very good at all...I"m sure they aren"t even in the same League as Canopus Products....

    Cheers
     
  2. rebootjim

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    Taking a look at the specs-
    Usb bus powered- hmmmmmm, not sure how good that is.
    Audio spec is pcm wave- hmmmm, where is ac3 dolby support?
    No details on the chip inside- I'd try to find out the chip maker and dig into some details about it.
    Intervideo Windvd creator- hmmmm, not the best just ok. There are better encoders, editors, and authoring solutions.
    Muuvee software- hmmm, why do they insist on goofy naming conventions?
    Price- way overpriced! There are the Hauupauge or Plextor devices priced at more reasonble levels.

    ok, sorry, looked at wrong one.
    At any rate a good idea is to dig into the chip(s) that are in these products and find some technical info.
     
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  4. pinkish

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    Thanx a lot for your replies. I'm better with motherboard chipsets than with capture cards chipsets, but i'm slowly learning. I do not consider Canopus ADVC 100 such a great product, after having used it. I think it has problems with saturated images (like the ones i get on cable over here).
    I haven't had the chance to test the ADVC 300 yet. Is it significantly better?
    Anyway, what i'd be more interested in is a device to transfer my VHS tapes to my hard drive in UNCOMPRESSED format, not DV (which has a little bit of compression). Ordinary TV tuner can do uncompressed avi, but they have 10-bit converters, while the ADVC 100 has a 24bit converter (much higher quality picture).
    What device is suited for uncompressed (raw avi, pcm sound) capture(transfer) of VHS to AVI?
     
  5. rebootjim

    rebootjim Active member

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    None. Your hard drive probalby won't be able to sustain the datarate needed for uncompressed avi, especially at larger aspects.
    Use Huffyuv, or the native DV to capture/transfer.
    Software controls audio, so use PCM if you must.
     
  6. pinkish

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    I'm pretty sure it will sustain (2xHDD in RAID mode for speed).

    Are you saying there are no 24-bit capture cards that will capture uncompressed?
     
  7. vlro

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    I don't understand what all the hoopla is about. This is what I do. I have my vcr connected via rca jacks to Dazzle to the computer via usb. I use Pinnacle v.9 and play the vcr tape and record on Pinnacle. Then I can edit and play with the recording as much as I want. Then I can write it all to DVD.
     
  8. samintx

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    what about the ad on the message page for Video Advantage cards? 169.00 for stand alone like Canopus and others go in DT ports.
    Anyone tried them?
     
  9. rebootjim

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    @ pinkish. Sure there are 24 bit cards. Nobody said you HAD to use compression, but if you're using a DV cam, then you SHOULD be transferring the video directly to the hard drive, not capturing.
    If you want 24 bit, professional quality, get this: http://www.detools.com/shop/PSY/index.html#DC30 pro
    Make sure you're sitting down when you get to the price. :)
     
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    I'm not even going to look at the price. I know it is out of my class. But just what I thought...You gotta pay if you want quality. Thanks
     
  11. pinkish

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    rebootjim, i see what you mean, but i've read a lot about capture cards (tests from different places) and it looks like ALL Pinnacle cards have a problem with sound sync when you record more than 60-70 minutes.

    I saw a card (i don't remember the name and i'm not home right now to see the link) that had SDTV-resolution capture and another one (from the same family) that could do SDTV and HDTV-resolution video capture. The SDTV one looked pretty tempting...

    What i am looking for is a card that was out in 2004 or so (new model, not old ones), because Pinnacle cards are more likely to fit the 90's... I don't mind paying a higher price if i pay for quality, not marketing. In the end, i only want to make an EXACT copy of a VHS to my hard drive, but in sync even if i have 4-hour long VHS tapes with bad frames and over saturated images (i exagerated for the sake of the discussion).
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    LATER EDIT:

    I saw some SD cards but they only have SDI connectors, no RCA or anything like that to connect to a VCR.

    bluefish444.com - SD Envy card — $3199
    digitalvoodoo.net - SD Flex - $2399
    More here: http://www.sharbor.com/catalog/digitalvideo.html

    From what i've heard, leave out the Matrox and Pinnacle cards, they are trouble.
     
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  12. rebootjim

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    You can do this a LOT cheaper than those cards then.
    Get a Datavideo DTV-1000. Hook it between the VCR and your computer.
    Go to it.
    For added quality, put a Canopus ADVC-110 (or 300) inline as well.
    A TBC and a video processor will do magical things with crappy VHS :)
     
  13. pinkish

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    Thank you for your quick reply.

    I dislike the Canopus products - i've had the ADVC 100 and sold it after a month of pain and changing the settings and setup. It has a lot of issues that i've mentioned on this thread mid-2004.

    I've not found the Datavideo DTV-1000, what is it? A TBC? Or is it an external capture card?
    Anyway, do you have any other ideas besides the Canopus, Matrox, Pinnacle, Dazzle, Snazzi and Plextor products? I'm running out of ideas myself :)
     
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    Yep, that's what i've thought. It enhances the image and keep everything in sync, but i still have to use another DEVICE to send data to the computer (like the advc110 you mentioned). What device should i get that is not from any of the mentioned companies in my other post?
     
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    Huh?
    From the site:
     
  17. pinkish

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    What i meant is - the datavideo is only a TBC... i need to connect it to something like the ADVC 100 THEN to my computer. I can't connect it directly to a computer.

    Your help is much appreciated. My (virtual) setup now looks like:

    VHS VCR -> Datavideo TBC 1000 -> some analogue to digital converter -> PC (uncompressed YUV) avi file

    What can i use in the 3rd position of my chain? I don't want the ADVC 100 or 300.
     
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    I don't know why you're so down on the Canopus products. They're some of the best in the world, especially for the price, the ADVC-110 is ideal. Sorry, I can't honestly recommend anything else.
     
  19. pinkish

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    Canopus products have a lot of issues, that's why i dislike them. I've tried the ADVC 100 in my computer and other setups as well, it has a lot of problems.
    Thank you for your time and your willing to help me. I appreciate that ;)
     
  20. w3tno

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    Why don't you tell us what those "issues" are that make you dislike the Canopus products.
     

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