Virgin to Capture illegal boxes

Its the White tent you should be worried about, especially if its near a green Box, mind you, that'll be a result wouldnt it. headline..."VM engineer smacked on the head with a suspicious Starview Box whilst trying to disconnect a leecher",lol...
I love these stories, keep them coming!!haha

 

Not to mention the red dvd discs with the chip to phone home thru the modem as the disc is being ripped to the hard drive. Beware of these also; the RIAA people will appear on your doorstep after getting info from your ISP.

 

LOL..thats is..i have heard enough...im gonna turn off my original box and just stick to the SV2

 

The starview etc boxes do not talk back to the network, which is why you cannot use the interactive function.

Since the box doesn't talk, VM can't listen

Now stop worrying and keep thing on how you are going to spend that extra VAT money

 

a lot of people seem to be forgeting one thing it was the vm engineers that started selling chipped boxes in the first place,if vm could tell you had a box then the dodgy engineer would of knocked back on your door saying can i have my box bak mate.think about it.

 

When I woke up this morning I thought I was in a tent!

 

Unbelievable

 

This thread is just too in-tents ;-)

 

Any more fuel for the fire .






Have a lollipop

 

Can they do this? - Yes, in theory they could.
Is the MAC address important - No.
Will connecting a genuine sub'd box stop it? - Not quite, but it might make it harder for them.
Will they do it? - No, not on your nelly!


Now before anyone jumps up & down with panic about their box, or tears their hair out saying it can't be done, consider this...

Unless the non-sub'd box is optically isolated from the cable network, and I've never seen such a device, RF emissions from it can be detected back up the cable with enough expensive equipment. To do this the provider would have to camp out in their little green tent at least next to the distribution box in your street. They would then have to tap in to your cable feed with their RF receiver (or a spectrum analyser). What they would detect would now be a host of things.

Every piece of electronic equipment that has any form of clock circuit will have an RF signature which is unique to that type of equipment. The more clock (or switching) circuits that equipment has the more distinct its signature becomes. This RF can & will get emitted at a very low level back up the incoming cable.

If they were to have a database of RF signatures from known equipment that they wanted to detect they could search for a match using their 'scanners'. However, they would first have to filter out noise from their own transponder frequencies which are constantly transmitting, including the broadband frequencies. They would also have to take into account RF noise signatures emitted from the sub'd box and your cable modem (assuming they were both connected).

The level of emitted RF from your box would be tiny in comparison to the incoming transponder signals and therefore would be heavily swamped by the other 'legit' signals on the line. They would stand more chance of detecting your box if they disconnected your cable from their feed but left it connected to their recevier/scanner. This is why I said above that leaving your sub'd box connected would make it harder for them to detect a non-sub'd one, unless they were identical in which case they'd have similar RF signatures.

So, as I said at the beginning, it can be done in theory but it never would be. Why would they spend all that money on equiping their vans with expensive kit just to try to identify if one customer is using a non-sub'd box on their network? They would be better-off just disconnecting then waiting to see if you call them up complaining of a fault.

This is all theory, but theory based on a certain amount of experience, so make of it what you will...! It's up to you if you want to connect anything to the cable network.

 

I think this is getting too hillarrriousss now..LOL

 

Ohhh..crappp..I just started page 3..sorry guys...LOL

 

wish they would knock om my door would give em my box as its sv1 and sick of manual update lol. by the way merry xmas to all and thanks to those guys who spend time helping others on this site.

 

yeahh...cos this site is great..even after getting the new fw, you can still get valluable info

 

this has bin the funist thing i have reed for a long time..wig wam time i think.HOW

 

There is a shroud available for the boxes that you can erect around your box that blocks all sensory devices making it impossible for vm to detect you, They will be available soon on ebay and other places, They are green and look a bit like a tent for under your tv set. When you want to change channels etc you can elevate the tent via a remote control joystick

 

Green aint my favourite colour, hope they come up with a choice, I like a colour coded setup!!

 

I'd like a shroud in a nice shade of blue please lol

 

Now your talking, that is a nice colour, exactly what I mean, sure thay may be able to sort it, can't be that hard surely lol.

 

I think you can spray them with a magic paint that I can suppy at a reasonable price