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Watching my kids computer

Discussion in 'All other topics' started by goddes1, Feb 2, 2007.

  1. craftyzan

    craftyzan Member

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    i'll tell you what happened. inflation. 80 hour work weeks. divorce. income not keeping up with cost of living. jobs going over seas and parents who used to work at good paying jobs forced to work two jobs, one at wallmart the other at the gas station...middle class disapearing...
     
  2. Ripper

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    I said I'd give them something nasty; and I was referring to my parents. Obviously I'd fix it for them afterwards, merely teach them a lesson. Calm down.

     
  3. gerry1

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    This has been an interesting thread; discussions are always most interesting when there are valid points to be made on both sides of an issue. I've refrained from commenting because I don't have kids nor were there computers around in my teen and not so tender years. I do, however, have a question for the parents of the group, how do you know who your kids are talking to?

    I think that would be my greatest fear as a parent; it wouldn't be a matter of trusting or distrusting the kids so much as the rest of the damned population. Personally, I don't think I'd be all that concerned about porn. Porn has been around a lot longer that the PC and while I can't speak for teenaged girls, I know that teen-aged boys will always manage to find some somewhere. How a parent deals with their kid looking at porn is a subjective matter but the simple fact of the matter is that any fourteen year old boy will develope a healthy curiosity ... in fact, you've got something to worry about if he doesn't LOL!

    No, my big fear would be "who is my kid talking to?" I know from my line of work that all kids, regardless of street smarts, intelligence and other savvy all have vulnerabilities which can be easily exploited when a seemingly trustworthy confidant to whom their pour their heart and souls is found online. Some police friends who work in my building tell me that the problem is much larger than most people realize, particularly among junior high and high school kids. Again, I have no experience with kids but how do you protect them from their unseen online "best friends" ...some pretending to be kids, others pretending to be the cool and understanding adults?
     
  4. goddes1

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    That has been one of the points that I have been trying to make. Yes I am concerned with the horrid pornography that is on the internet these days, but I know that my son will be able to access porn through magazines if not the internet. What really worries me is the emails and chats. I know the people that my kids talk to right now, friends from school and family, I know who they are on the computer. What I am watching out for though is the new name that might pop up and ask for personal information from my kids. My children and I have already had the discussion about not talking to strangers even on the internet because you don't know who they are and definitely don't give out personal information, but there's always that vulnerable side to kids that wants to believe that they have met a new friend, not someone who wants to possibly hurt them. The program that I have monitors chats so if this happens I can run interference if I need to. All that sicko on the other end needs one little bit of information to tie my kid to where he lives and that's it. Privacy is one thing, REALITY is another.
     
  5. gerry1

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    @garmoon...
    I know it was well intentioned but never call a marine a soldier! LOL!
     
  6. goddes1

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    True very true, but it was with very good intentions.
     
  7. garmoon

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    @gerry

    The term I should have used should have been "armed forces" I was referring to her husband and all other uniformed personnel, not just the marines. I was in the Army, you know that, I guess I was a soldier, but I never had a weapon in my 2 years. And most of the troops on the ground over there are soldiers.

    You're right on about the perverts on line, of course, as being a bigger problem than porn. At least, as godess1 says, you can teach a child to be ever vigilant when they are her children's ages. And just hope they remember what they learned. I think that the TV show that catches the perverts going to children's homes and getting busted might make at least some of them a little more hesitant! Castration as a punishment for first offence would be better. Ouch!
     
  8. goddes1

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    I'll second that for castration.
     
  9. onya

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    Jumping into this so called privacy issue, it seems that there are some that have simply lost the plot. Being a father of five children myself, there are issues that can and do occur that warrant the breaching of their right to privacy. Trust is and always will be, administered on multiple levels. This is not to say my children can do anything they darn well please, quite the opposite. In this age of instant communications, it requires the parent(s) to be ever vigilant with regards to the safety and wellbeing of the children in their care, Simply having firewalls, A/V protection and the like, is not enough.

    We are all well aware of the fact there are those in our communities, that prey on the unsuspecting, just thinking about this, incenses us all. You have all heard the sickening news, at one time or another, that yet another child has fallen prey to these sicko’s. Don’t try and justify for a second, that this privacy should be held above all, don’t for a second, diminish the responsibilities of parents with idle, feeble and empty rhetoric.

    Being a parent in this day and age, is difficult, no question. Wrapping them up in cotton wool, won’t work, never has. The solution is to be an active participant on all levels with their internet activities. If this is called an invasion of privacy by some, they should rethink that position. Never take your eye off the ball, there are those that are waiting for you to do so.

    @goddes1, good for you on taking an active interest in their activities, don’t be swayed by the minority. Do what you can, do what you feel is best for you and yours. If you end up taking flak, just remember, it will be worth it in the end.

    @Shado36, Ireland, Aabbccdd and others, great input guys. Nice to know your out there.

    When we talk of rights to privacy with regard to minors, what ever happened to the word privilege?

    Cheers.
     
  10. goddes1

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    Thank you for your support. When it comes to MINORS, privacy os a privilege and NOT a right. Until my children turn 18 their entire world is my business whether they loike it not or whether they tell me or not.
     
  11. onya

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    No problem at all. If only you were here when I informed my eldest daughter (deliberately) about the topic I was replying to, and the content of my reply. If looks could kill. I'll sleep with one eye open tonight....just to be on the safe side.......LOL.

    Cheers.
     
  12. FredBun

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    I totally agree with irelands points on the first page, also have a irish wife and kids, better watch out.
     
  13. ireland

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    For those of you without children - this is a warning

    From an anonymous mother in Austin Texas: Things I've learned from my two boys


    1. A king size waterbed holds enough water to fill a 2000 sq. ft. house 4 inches deep.

    2. If you spray hair spray on dust bunnies and run over them with roller blades, they can ignite.

    3. A 3-years old boy's voice is louder than 200 adults in a crowded restaurant.

    4. If you hook a dog leash over a ceiling fan, the motor is not strong enough to rotate a 42 pound boy wearing Batman underwear and a Superman cape. It is strong enough, however, if tied to a paint can to spread paint on all four walls of a 20x20 foot room.

    5. You should not throw baseballs when a ceiling fan is on. When using a ceiling fan as a bat, you have to throw the ball up a few times to get a hit. A ceiling fan can hit a baseball a long way.

    6. The glass in the windows does not stop a baseball hit by a ceiling fan.

    7. When you hear the toilet flush and the words, "Uh oh," it's already too late.

    8. Brake fluid mixed with Clorox makes smoke, and lots of it.

    9. A six-year old boy can start a fire with a flint rock even though a 36-year old man will say it can only be done in the movies.

    10. Certain legos will pass through the digestive tract of a 4-year old boy.

    11. Playdough and microwave should not be used in the same sentence.

    12. Super glue is forever.

    13. No matter how much Jell-O you put in a swimming pool you still can't walk on water.

    14. Pool filters do not like Jell-O.

    15. VCRs do not eject peanut butter and jelly sandwiches even though TV commercials show they do.

    16. Garbage bags do not make good parachutes.

    17. Marbles in a gas tank make lots of noise when driving.

    18. You DO NOT want to know what that odor is.

    19. Always look in the oven before turning it on; plastic toys do not like ovens.

    20. The fire department in Austin, Texas, has a 5-minute response time.

    21. The spin cycle on the washing machine does not make earthworms dizzy.

    22. It will, however, make cats dizzy.

    23. Cats throw up twice their body weight when dizzy.

    24. Eighty percent of men who read this will try mixing brake fluid with Clorox.
     
  14. thecraigc

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    HAHAHAHAHA... LMAO!!!
     
  15. garmoon

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    That pretty much discribed my childhood.
     
  16. FredBun

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    lol, my little pri#$$#s, did it done that.
     
  17. goddes1

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    LOL... I can't stop laughing... that is hilarious... but SO TRUE. I have a boy and a girl and so many similar things have been tried.
     
  18. BiggieSma

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    Yes there is! Im not sure about the programs name but I think it is Teacher or something... Sry that I dont remember the name but I can say for the there is a way. I think it was Teacher. I do know this because we had that kind of program at my old school. U got to go to some special shop and ask about program like u described. Hope this help even a bit!
     
  19. Ripper

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    Seeing as it came to mind, I thought I'd mention this..

    http://www.rangersuite.com/products/rangerfornetworks/

    It's not at all elusive, but it works. My school use it to try and watch what we do in ICT lessons; they don't do it very well tbh.. Lol.

    By the way, don't take my posting of that as hipocrism or contradiction on my part, I'm just in a good mood. Heh.
     
  20. ireland

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    The following are from a speech that Bill Gates gave to an assembly of college graduates.

    Rule 1: Life is not fair - get used to it

    Rule 2: The world won't care about your self-esteem. The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself.

    Rule 3: You will NOT make $40,000 a year right out of high school. You won't be a vice-president with a car phone until you earn both.

    Rule 4: If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss.

    Rule 5: Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your grandparents had a different word for burger flipping-they called it opportunity.

    Rule 6: If you mess up, it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine about your mistakes, learn from them.

    Rule 7: Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are now. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and listening to you talk about how cool you are. So before you save the rain forest from the parasites of your parents' generation, try delousing the closet in your own room.

    Rule 8: Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life has not. In some schools, they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as many times as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life.

    Rule 9: Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off and very few employers are interested in helping you find yourself. Do that on your own time!

    Rule 10: Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually have to leave the coffee shop and go to jobs.

    Rule 11: Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.
     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2007

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