Apparently IBM considers the motherboard info in its Desktop PC's to be "Classified" or as the CSR said "confidential" and she even told me without warning "and you can't google the computer or anything because you won't find any information." Geez... these crappy computers must have some hidden Military use or something heh. It was like she was trying to scare me into giving up the search for info... So yea, anyways, I wanna know what Motherboard is in a IBM NetVista 2257-72u. This boards has a pitiful Celeron 950mhz Coppermine processor in it. I've been searching for days on info on this board. Any help would be grealy appreciated.
The board is proprietary. It's made specifically for IBM, but here's the chipset info, etc. From IBM's own website http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-41035 * General information System board/Form factor * Micro ATX / Microtower (3X4) Processor/Front side bus * Intel Pentium III with 133Mhz front-side bus * Intel Celeron processors with 100Mhz front-side bus L2 Cache * 256 KB internal L2 cache memory and MMX technology (Pentium III models) * 128 KB internal L2 cache memory and MMX technology (Celeron models) Chipsets * Intel 810e chip set * Intel (82801AA) ICH and Intel 82801AB (ICH0) I/O Controller Hub * Supports PCI specifications 2.2 and universal HCi specifications for USB 1.1 Memory * Two 168-pin gold-plated DIMM sockets (one is open) * Supports PC133 SDRAM DIMMs * Supports a maximum memory up to 512MB * Option part number for memory Hard disk drive features * Enhanced IDE (EIDE) * ATA-100 * S.M.A.R.T. * Option part numbers for hard disk drives Hard disk controller * Enhanced IDE busmaster * ATA-100 * Two connectors on planar CD-ROM * Enhanced IDE/ATAPI interface * Less than 85 ms average access time and 128 KB buffer for look-ahead cache * Vertical or horizontal mount * 12 cm and 8 cm disc compatibility (8 cm horizontal mount only) * Front load tray and front panel audio jack and volume control * Dust seal enclosure * Option part numbers for CD-ROM drives CD-RW * 12x, 8x, or 4x, write speed of CD-R media * 8x, 4x, or 2x write speed of CD-RW media * 14x-32x read speed of CD-ROM and CD-R media * 10x-24x read speed for CD-RW media * Enhanced IDE/ATAPI interface * 110 ms average access time (14-32x Constant Angular Velocity, CAV) * 8 MB data buffer * Vertical or horizontal mount DVD/CD-RW combo * 8x, 4x, 2x write speed of CD-R media * 4x, 2x write speed of CD-RW media * 32x max read speed of CD media * 8x max read speed of DVD media * Industry-leading CD recording and movie navigator software(2) for CD * Mastering and DVD movie playback * Enhanced IDE/ATAPI interface * 2MB data buffer * Vertical or horizontal mount DVD-ROM * 5.25-inch half-height form factor * 16x-7x CAV read speed of DVD media * 40x-17x read speed of CD media * Decoding software for MPEG-2 and movie playback Onboard audio * 16-bit integrated Sound Blaster Pro compatible audio subsystem * Software-based (done by processor and ICH2); AC '97 interface * ADI 1887 codec * Cyber Accoustics external powered speakers (adapter required) Power management * APM 1.2 and ACPI 1.0 compliant * Standby capabilities * Automatic Power-On features Power supply * 155 watts Modem * 56K data/fax modem * low profile * Option part numbers for modem cards NOTE: This modem is designed to be capable of receiving at up to 56Kbps with compatible phone line and server equipment, and transmitting at up to 31.2 kbps. Public networks currently limit download speeds to about 53kbps. Actual speeds vary and are often less than the maximum. Network * Onboard Intel 10/100 ethernet * 10BaseT, 100BaseTX * Full duplex * RJ-45 port * Wake On LAN support * Option part numbers for network cards Keyboard / Mouse * IBM Rapid Access IIIe keyboard * IBM ScrollPoint III mouse * Option part numbers for keyboard and mouse Operating systems * Microsoft Windows Me * Microsoft Windows XP Home NOTE: Preloaded software utilizes the disk-to-disk recovery method. Enhanced security * Power-on and administrator passwords * Support for the addition of a rope clip and lockable cable (varies by mechanical chassis) * Startup sequence control * Startup without diskette drive, keyboard, or mouse * Unattended start mode * Diskette and hard disk I/O control * Serial and parallel port I/O control External ports * 4 USB (two in front; two in back) [Ver 1.1] * One ethernet RJ-45 * Two 9-pin serial ports * One parallel (EPP, ECP), IEEE 1284 compatible * Keyboard and mouse ports * Audio line in, audio line-out, and microphone-in ports (rear) Slots * Slot 1: 3/4 length, full height, 32-bit PCI 2.2 (5v) * Slot 2: 3/4 length, full height, 32-bit PCI 2.2 (5v) * Slot 3: 3/4 length, full height, 32-bit PCI 2.2 (5v) Bays * Bay 1: CD-ROM drive (standard in some models) 5.25-inch hard disk drive (preinstalled) * Bay 2: 5.25-inch hard disk drive 3.5-inch hard disk drive (requires a mounting bracket) CD-ROM drive DVD-ROM drive (open) * Bay 3: 3.5 - inch diskette drive (preinstalled) * Bay 4: Hard disk drive (preinstalled)
Lots of info there, thanks ;^) I was gonna say, it runs 100MHz x 9.5 so if you could simply switch the FSB to 133MHz you would have instant Celeron 1266MHz. This PC will not run 512MB PC133 (or single-sided 256MB chips). It will require double-sided (16-chip) 256MB PC133, maximum of 2 = 512MB. If you can get it to run 1266MHz, with 512MB PC133 (synchronously), it should be okay - would run WinXP no problem. Name-Brand PC often won't offer this FSB option in BIOS though, and you would be pleased indeed if you were able to find the option to change FSB available via DIP (small switches on motherboard). Note little tiny MATX PS, LoL :^) Oh well... Good luck, L8R
Mine actually uses a normal ATX and I'm running a nice 550 watt source right now with no power issues like most. Yea I've seen all that info many more than 1 time... but I'm trying to find info so I can overclock... a lot of programs require motherboard info to OC the fsb and most sites also suggested I look through the manual for the mobo... anyone know how I can OC it without mobo info beyond whats in this thread? the more detailed the better! Thanks!
Look for the DIP switches, Ideally your mobo will be 'labelled' with little (silk screened) instructions. Sometimes there is an instruction sticker on the inside of the case... Regards
If I were you I'd be wary of making many upgrades, it has a micro desktop form factor power supply and generally any upgrades on these can cause problems. In fact, I've had numerous PSU failures to deal with involving these without adding any upgrades at all!
I've replaced the hard drive, sound card, power supply and added 2 new sticks of ram with ZERO problems except I bought a single sided stick instead of a double sided ram stick to go with the existing double sided heh. That was a silly mistake but I swaped with someone and all was good. I'm just going to replace the CPU and I want to overclock the fsb from 100mhz to 133mhz for a slight increase in efficiency is all.
OK, but that's a fairly large number of upgrades to be carrying out on a μATX power supply. Once you start adding even more you could be pushing the limit. What of course you also need to beware of is the extra heat the processor will generate, you need to be careful not to get anything too hot.
I'm getting a newer, better processor to handle the extra load. A better Heatsink and fan also. But power isn't an issue... I'm running a 550watt power supply and my temps at idle are 34-35C and under normal use, which my comp sucks so it goes under a bit of hard load is about 40-42C norm and 45C at peaks usually... unless I do something very demanding... and then its yet to have breached 50C. I don't know a lot... not even close to enough... but I'm learning, and at a very fast rate. The last 2 weeks of inquiring about newer computers and other issues on here and readin and helping has helped me a lot. I just can't find any bloody way to find out the brand and model of this motherboard to find a manual.
Right sorry I confused you with trgpullr, I beg your pardon. 550W is plenty! If you've yet to reach 50C on your CPU you're doing fine, that's cooler than my desktop has ever ran at.
Re: DIP Switches Now how can you can come back with 'what are DIP switches?' I am not sure how much clearer I can be... If you get a PentiumIII CPU that runs 133MHz FSB, it will not just change FSB speed automatically - you must change it! Have you downloaded the User Guide? http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-41416 And Hardware Maintenance Manual? http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-38934 C'mon fuel_f2f, this stuff is not difficult :^)
Okay it may be simple but there's no need to be so patronising. I don't even recall all boards having DIP switches.
I never owned, let alone got to work on a computer till I was 16... I'm 21 now. and My first computer I put together from an old 386. Then I got my hands on a 500mhz PII that was crap and now I'm on a Celeron 950mhz. Everything I know I've either found out trial and error or seeked advice/help on boards such as these. So until I come accross DIP switches, I have no clue what they are. I won't take his words as subtle insults, yet motivation to learn more about computers to further my growing knowledge. And c'mon, with the computers I've used I haven't really been able to run anything crazy enough to need to know any of this stuff Thanks for the guides and manual info.
That's OK, though if you're not into anything major, you can pick up very cheap CPU and motherboard bundles today, just in case you were interested. Check out these two: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138277 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813185063 Cheap as chips, shall we say. To be fair, the celeron M360 pretty much runs like 1 Ghz Desktop celeron, and it's only using 256MB. Since that's permanently full (I'm using windows XP) It might as well be SD, so technically this laptop isn't any better than your PC! It really makes a difference when I use my desktop PC - RAID 0, 1GB RAM (no saturation) and a decent Desktop CPU.
thanks but this computer is just for my parents... which means playing flash games, browsing net for sports and entertainment news and emails... they don't need anything past a 486 really but I need it to be in GOOD working order for when I move away after the summer cause they know nothing about computers... I'm just not willing to put $200+ into this... new mb and cpu means new ram as well... cheap but for a $30 cpu, its easier and cheaper. But thanks for being so nice as to look me up some deals. PS> newegg.com doesn't do business to canadian residents... I emailed them about it... sure does suck.
yea I was really looking forward to buying from newegg... I've heard nothing but good things from their products and service, not to mention incredible prices I find hard to find a match for on any other site. They won't even do Special orders... TigerDirect, I think thats a place I also emailed... if so they don't ship to canada but WILL do it on special order for a very similar shipping price.
Yea... I priced a computer with the same components I wanted from neweeg.com with a local store thats the best I could find and always deal with and for a system on newegg of about $1100 my local store wanted about $2000 for... eeesh. I'm def buying my new comp from an online store.
