Discussion in 'All other topics' started by vgaddict8, Mar 30, 2006.
Mmmm... Beerios, I'd pay for a box of them.
i have a mate who got paid about $8000 dollars for a months work.He designed a couple of characters for one of the unreal tournament games, maybe you should look into using 3d apps like 3D max etc.......
I don't think I am very good though with all that programming/design business. I just know how to use the internet and download games. Videogame is just very interesting to me. I just like to play it. Although, I am not the best at every single game, I consider myself somewhat decent. I hear that to work at places such as Ign.com you have to go into journalism or have a english or something like that. I don't think marketing videogames would be a bad job.
Wow, $8,000 to model for Unreal??? Maybe I should start sending them some of my models becuase Unreal looks like crap to me...
As for making money, working is definately NOT the way...
Think about it, when you work all you are doing is securing your future... That is all good, but what are you going to do with say $500,000 or even $50,000,000 when you are 70??? Nothing because your life is over by then. Sure you can enjoy yourself, but it is not the same as when you are say 18...
Basically, in order to enjoy life, you have to think and become like the animals... Now, I don't mean you go out an eat other people and start raping everything, but simplify your life.
What is money used for?? There are a few basic needs that are made more convenient by using money and those are food and shelter... Everything else is not necessary. The problems with money and society comes with the excess of luxuries. Just think, without your internet and video games, you would have a hard time finding anything to do right? Your looking for a way to make money implies this, but I am sure you feel this way.
No imagine if you did not know what a computer was and the word "video" was not in your vocabulary... Without those two things, you would have definately taken a different route in life. Maybe you would have begun playing sports or started reading a lot of books, etc... However, you can keep on removing items (luxuries) until you get to the prime necessaties of life...
Those are Food, shelter, and sex (reproduction & having a family; not just the act of having sex). With that in mind, you can probably find a way to get through life without much money, because you can have all of that for free!!!
As for actually making money, you are correct about schooling... All that it teaches you is how to become a machine, or robot. There are lots of things that may be useless to you in life. Also, with computers there is not much need of a brain anymore, so basically our school sytems are changing us into drones.
Almost everything they teach you in school is detrimental to your success. They do not teach you to think individually, but rather to think like everyone else... Also, alot of what they teach you about ethics and such will make you only become a successful worker, but not successful in life (actually the law is against your sucess as well).
You have to make the choice yourself; do you want to work your whole life and be a slave to the almighty dollar, or do you want to live... Everyone says they want to live the dream life, but almost all of those people do not mean it. You have to think and act on your own. Use school only as a tool. Do not expect school alone to get you anywhere because I would say 99% of the time it only gets you a job.
However, do not buy into any pyramid/get rich quick scheme. These are only good for the people that are at the top. You are betting on a few things here; that people are idiots and that you can con people into spending big $$$ on nothing. While making money is possible here, it is a long shot. I would imagine you are better off playing the lottery....
Also, never settle for anything. To settle is to be unhappy... This means that you are giving up hope!!! If you say you are going to settle for working a factory job this means you gave up on what you truely wanted. Same as when you are going after a girl...If you settle for the ugly girl with the big eyes
(You can thank Ireland for sharing that pic in another thread).
this means that you really wanted the hot blonde, but you do not have have the confidence, ambition, or desire to go after her... Without that, you are basically giving up on life!!!
As someone posted earlier, real estate has potential to make money. There are some programs that help you in buying a home, but you have to do some reading. You can basically either get a free home or get a home with no money down. The people that do those ads on TV are not telling a lie!! However, do not buy anything from them because the way these people actually get rich is by selling you their book or cassette... You can find all that info for free through the porn...I mean internet!!! You just have to filter through a bunch of garbage (like porn sites) before you find anything useful.
@ JaguarGod: was there a moral in there somewhere
I forgot what I was gonna say.
thats cool i'm sure jaguargod will come out with it
You can bet on sports!!! Gamble!!!! You can even model "IF" your good looking. What her name gets 1million dollor for one picture. you can act. It's pretty easily job. You can do stocking. If you master at one of those you're pretty much set.
I don't know about you, but money does buy me happyness. Life's good with cash.
JaguarGod, what you said was pure "genius". I got to take some notes down. Again, what's the point of having a million dollars when you are like 80 years old and stuff. I agree with most of everything you siad jaguargod. It's sad, but the truth hurts.
Although I'm sure JaguarGod maid a lot of good points, he really didn't answer anything that most of us already knew. Of course it's stupid that someone would have all that money when they are 80, but that still doesn't mean they didn't work for it (most of the time). You're still going to have to work pretty hard in order to make money, and you are supposed to be learning important skills in school right now. You do communications so you can be a firm worker and allow your opinions to be voiced, your taking English to be able to voice that opinion in the appropriate words, and just about every other General Ed class you take will eventually be used at one point or another in life. Basically, you'll be using it to have intelligent conversations with people and are able to keep up with them.
And what JaguarGod said about school; if you allow school to turn you into a robot, then you really didn't have any real motivation to go in the first place. School isn't supposed to rule your life, but enhance it. I'm pretty sure you needed a brain in order to operate and manipulate that screen with two input devices in front of you.
In fact, I only think you agree with JaguarGod is because he told you what you wanted to hear, but in your notes did you take down that he does say that school is important as well? I also agree with him that school is mostly a stepping stone, so it should be put low on your path of things to do with your life.
I also agree with what he said about not selling yourself short, but there are limitations to that rule. If you have something that is going pretty good for you, should you go for that better thing at the cost of losing what you already have? If there's so much at stake there, you might want to think it over some more before you jump to conclusions.
I'm sure you can make a million dollars before 35, or even 25, but there a lot of things involved in achieving that amount, and not so many people are capable of doing that.
You're gonna have to admit, if you don't have the skills to do what you want or con people out of all their money, then you're gonna have to work at a crappy job that pays a decent wage until you do. That would probably be the least detrimental thing you could do in your situation right now. Do that or try getting more financial aid through grants. I can't tell you what to do in the end, but that's how I think you make money in real life, which is the question you asked. If you have an In 'N' Out near where you live, if they are hiring, they pay $9/hour starting wage, plus benefits. I have a full schedule, and I only go to school 4 1/2 hours a day, so I think you can cut some time to do this. I'm not saying this to offend you, I'm just saying it to give you some options.
You have to make the initiative, no one is going to hold you by the hand and tell you what to do anymore. I had to learn that the hard way. Like I said, life sucks for some, and we are pretty much in the same area, but that's why we are at school, to at least get the skills that will give a better chance for success. I mean, for a long time for me, having Internet access was a luxery that I couldn't afford, and I only got it just as I graduated from high school. Things are going up a little for me, and college really helped out in that. I know that if I stay and finish, I'll be able to get out of what I consider a pitiful situation.
The truth does hurt, so does life, but you still have to do it. Nothing you say against it can say much about that.
how to make real money,buy a apple!
A young man asked an old rich man how he made his money.
The old guy fingered his worsted wool vest and said, "Well, son, it was 1932. The depth of the Great Depression. I was down to my last nickel."
"I invested that nickel in an apple. I spent the entire day polishing the apple and, at the end of the day, I sold the apple for ten cents."
"The next morning, I invested those ten cents in two apples. I spent the entire day polishing them and sold them at 5:00 pm for 20 cents. I continued this system for a month, by the end of which I'd accumulated a fortune of $1.37."
"Then my wife's father died and left us two million dollars."
or buy some stock and watch the stock quotes
Today in the Stock Market:
Helium was up, feathers were down.
Paper was stationary.
Fluorescent tubing was dimmed in light trading.
Knives were up sharply.
Cow steered into a bull market.
Pencils lost a few points.
Hiking equipment was trailing.
Elevators rose, while escalators continued their slow decline.
Weights were up in heavy trading.
Light switches were off.
Mining equipment hit rock bottom.
Diapers remain unchanged.
Shipping lines stayed at an even keel.
The market for raisins dried up.
Coca Cola fizzled.
Caterpillar stock inched up a bit.
Sun peaked at midday.
Balloon prices were inflated.
And batteries exploded in an attempt to recharge the market.
A careful study of economics usually reveals that the best time to buy anything was last year.
I dialed one of those 900 numbers to get some financial advice.
They advised me not to dial 900 numbers.
What are you guys talking about?
THE BEST WAY TO MAKE MONEY IS TO BE BILL GATES' SON.
The moral is in there, but it sort of has to be figured out.
Basically, I pointed out the three lifestyles:
worker (schooling leads to this)
simple (ignorance leads to this)
rich (you must persue this one yourself)
I also said that the choice on which lifestyle to live is yours and should not be decided by society, the schooling system, government, etc...
Also, the original post is sort of a compressed version of what I intended to post. There is much more I could have said, but impossible to do without overkilling the thread.
The obvious morals/points however were:
-Working leads to nothing
-investing is for the rich
-simplicity/ignorance can lead to happiness
-pyramid schemes are BAD!!!
I mentioned real estate in the end, though this was unrelated, because real estate can have potential. However, in order to become successful at anything, you have to give it lots of input and don't give up, otherwise, you do not really want it.
I think the question I asked about what do you need the money for... is important. If you are only using it for video games, then you do not need the money. As I stated all that is important and crucial is food, shelter, and sex... Everything else is just extra and you can live without.
You can be a striper or hooker. Striping is pretty good money and easy job.
Yeah I agree. If you are a playgirl, damn money keep going to you pocket. Plus you have fun every night.
In an earlier post vgaddict8 asked for some financial help with bills and the cost of living, which is very much so a necessity. He said that he really liked gaming, because it made life barable. To me, if it got to that point, I would really think the world would suck. Which I do, but I'm fighting back in my own way, by defying what these "hidden" classes are trying to put me in. Most of us are trying to help him out in a serious way, as this is a serious situation. I can understand somewhat what he's going through, although I'm not sure we are in the exact same predicament.
I'll assume and say that he's mainly frustrated, which is the reason for him writting this thread in the first place, and he doesn't see all the options he had been used to before. While cracking a joke here or there, people are trying to help him out with some suggestions, and if you would have read through the whole thread, you might have known that.
Also, I don't know what your beef with the working class is, but just because they have to work for a living doesn't mean they don't get something out of it. People work hard to provide for their needs or families, and get stompped on by their superiors because of it. Why do you think I continue to stress the importance of school? It's to help him know when he's in such a predicament, and can fight back beit the case. It's so you don't stay an ignorant person and blindly allow the people above you to take advantage of you. What vgaddict8 is doing right now is very important to his future, and throwing that away for a damn get-rich-quick scheme or anything else redundant and meaningless like that doesn't make sense at all.
I read the whole thread, but it is not that simple to filter out all the sarcasm yet read everything I should. I missed the post about needing the money for bills probably because of all the exclamation marks (I just saw it). At first I thought he was looking to make tons of money...
Also, I have no beef with the working class at all. The problem is that they are led/forced to become the working class. Many workers are unhappy with their work or their situation. I don't know exactly who is to blame...the government...society in general...
I will not get into school, because I could write a book on that... The problem is not the act of going to school, but the schooling system. This should be re-structured, but not like what they are planning/considering/scheming up (having professors in India and they broadcast class through satellites).
What bills do you have to pay?? Is it your living expenses, tuition, credit cards??? You have lots of games, maybe a few of them are worth something. For instance, I have Marvel vs Capcom 2. This game can go for around $75+ on eBay...
If you owe lots of money for tuition, try to see if your school is a qualified institution for something like FAFSA or government loans. FAFSA is the best, but you are too young to qualify for yourself, so it depends on your parents/guardians income (you have to be 24 to be able to file for yourself). Govt loans are the best because they are low interest and you do not have to pay them back until after you graduate. I believe they even give you 6 months after you graduate before you begin making payments.
Depending on how much you need, you can get a job working for some bakery or something, under the table of course... You can get $15/h or more for doing work that a chimp can do blindfolded.
I am not really greedy for money, or want to make millions right now. I only care about money, because I need it to pay rents bills, and food, and cloths. That's it. I just figured that maybe with programs like studiotraffic, I can some supplemental income without having to do much work.
I prefer having a clean concious....but thats imposible in a corrupted world. So the best way to make money probably wouldnt matter if you like your job....as my english teacher always said....."If you like what you do for a living youll never have to work a day in your life."
What i look foward to doing is Carpentry[making guitars specificly], and computer everything[Tech, Net, Prog, and stuff *wink].
can you do me a favor and remove your sig. It's not that i don't like it, it makes my parent uncomtable.
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