Which Transcoding Tools Produce The Best Picture Quality.

Soph, Bigo & Vurbal

You may be interested that, with my new computer rig I am achieving processing speeds, during encoding, of 2.6 to 2.8 with the DVDRB/CCE process. A bit faster than the normal 0.6 to 0.8 im used to.

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AMD Athlon FX-53(939 pin). ASUS A8V Deluxe Athlon 64 2000MHz SB, Dual LAN, IEEE 1394.
1024MB DDR 400 RAM (PC3200), 2 X 200GB SATA, 2 X Pioneer 107D. 128MB nVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 XT.[/small]

 

brian100

An attempt to overshadow the dual CPU server system I discussed and said I was building a few weeks ago eh?:} I'm still waiting for some new technologies to become mainstream and I'm still going with intel, maybe. LOL

Have you tried batch processing yet, you just might find that speed isn't as important as it used to be or at least with the added speed you could do a 6 or more while you sleep.

 

Soph

I have been using the batch processing method since almost as long as Ive had CCE basic (April this year). But, you know, it's just nice to watch that large number crunching away while I am still conscious, for a change. Good manner for the brain and leaves a warm glowy feeling all over.

I look forward to hearing about your speed results with your new system, go for it!!!

To tell the truth matey, I am now at a loss to try any new encoding/transcoding methods. I feel I have totally cracked it. (IE DVDRB/CCE). I am twiddling my fingers on a more regular basis than ever before. Depressing eh?

Ps And as for quality tests between Shrink & CCE, who cares???, Ive just lost complete interest in the subject.
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AMD Athlon FX-53(939 pin). ASUS A8V Deluxe Athlon 64 2000MHz SB, Dual LAN, IEEE 1394.
1024MB DDR 400 RAM (PC3200), 2 X 200GB SATA, 2 X Pioneer 107D. 128MB nVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 XT.[/small]

 

Brian100...

I would agree ... what's the point of more tests?

 

Doc

Considering where we've all been during the last few months on this thread, I am just sick to death of testing of any kind. On the plus side, this thread must have helped countless members of this forum and has indirectly resulted in the improvement of DVD shrink. Of that I feel everyone involved with this thread can be duly proud of what they have achieved. We have also lured in many new quality members IE DDlooping, Jdobbs & Mackemx, long may they stay !!

Considering that a few, well publicised, members of this forum have recently left the building, AD is in good hands for the future.

 

brian

You're so right about being tired of it all. You forgot Dimad in your lists of those we've lured. I know this might sound silly but we've made AD history. My only regret is that the powers that be here didn't see fit to make you all at least seniors, because you all deserve it.

I said as much here and it always amazes me as to how we are all on the same page.

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/3/102128
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Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." Sherlock Holmes (by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, 1859-1930)[/small]

 

Soph

I think that one senior amongst this group is well adequate for the time being. We've needed someone like you to bring a bit of order, at times, to the thread.

Yes I forgot about Dimad. Along with Jdobbs, these 2 have revolutionised my method of DVD backup to levels, I would have thought unobtainable only a few months ago. My hat goes off to the pair of them!!

It is just so easy these days to do a good "backing up" job. Unlike when I first started yonks ago. How times change for the better eh?. It must be extremely daunting for a newbie to this technology as to which way to turn, although it is now pretty safe to say "If you dont wanna spend use Shrink 3.2, If youve got money to spare use DVD remake/DVDRB/CCE" Simple eh?. Forget DVD2one, Recode, DVDcloner, Pinnacle IC, Ifoedit, Vobedit, DVD stripper, Vobblanker. the list continues. Damn it even the blank media, these days, Is of such high quality and priced so cheaply!

As one former uk prime minister said, and I quote "You've never had it so good".

 

Sophocles ... concerning the senior member status changes, flip218 is the last one I noticed. There have been a number of juniors that got upgraded to member status after this, as well as newbies that are now juniors. I think the best thing to happen, though, was to get the newbie off jdobbs name.

Brian100 ... yeah, we'ver never had it so good. About the testing, once I got my own results, nothing came close to RB-CCE. I did the newer films, and really put it to the test with the old epic classics. Still, highly superior results. It was really at this point that further testing became meaningless. And when Soph helped me figure out Batch, this removed even the question of using other transcoders for lower compression requirements.

 

Thanks brian, I think you're bringing tears to my eyes (almost), but don't forget Vurbal he was the Senior's senior. He provided us with a way to define what we didn't understand.
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Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." Sherlock Holmes (by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, 1859-1930)[/small]

 

Soph

Vurbals guides will prove invaluable during the coming months. I feel there will be a wave of people turning to DVDRB/CCE, prepare for the avalanch!!

You know the only thing that really bugs me about this whole discussion? "INTERVIDEO **$$!! DVD COPY!!" I could never get that app to work!!. I am sitting here..wondering..and fidgeting..thinking...do I dare try the trial version on my new rig???.. Or do i settle in front of the fire with my furry slippers smoking my pipe?.

 

editing...

 

Brian100 ... don't settle in too quickly. There's still the advanced guide. I'd like to try some of the filters in the near future.

 

Doc

I havent tried any filters with CCE/RB yet, and will probably not. The filters, in my opinion, would change the original appearance of the original movie. This is Something I dont think I could live with. Some may disagree, but in all honest..good luck to em.

 

Doc's right it's not over yet, there's still so much to be learned. We've all contributed so much to this forum and I'll be happy when the rest of you get the recognition you've earned, deserve.

 

A good while ago I experimented "converting" 4:3 (full screen) widescreen movies (IE The Thing, Donnie Brasco) to anamorphic using DVDRB/CCE. Have any of you guys tried it yet?. Because if you have not it is definitely worth a go. I tell you the first time i watched "The Thing" after conversion it darn near blew my mind away.

Incase anyones curious : "OPTIONS/AVS OPTIONS/ADVANCED(EXPERT)OPTIONS/CONVERT FROM LB 4:3 TO 16:9"
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If you are skint..use DVD Shrink.
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I'm still saving my shekels for a widescreen, but you bring up a good point in a 'round about way. Some of my DVD's are 4:3, and since a widescreeen is in the future, I'll consider doing widescreen on my backups from now on.

Concerning filters, I can understand not wanting to change how a "Hollywood" movie looks. I do have some old videotape that I want to get onto disc, and I think these filters may help me with that. It's going to be a journey, but I have a Canopus ADVC100 that will digitize the analog stream, and so I will need to figure out where to go from there. If I can find a way into CCE, I think the filters will come in handy.

 

Is the challenge over yet.
My test DVDs have eliminated any doubt in my mind.
CCE still is on top. Not that that was ever a real question.

Even the test clips from ddlooping showed dvd2dvdr a closer match to the original. I think he just likes the smoothing effects.
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64026402

Good analysis, Double "D" does after all come from the land of Monet and Impressionism.

 

It's been a hectic week and the SHRINK IS BETTER stuff has been an added hassle. The please test my moniter post was so see through and I new my week just got longer.
Switching to CCE has been a saving grace for me because I can backup everything the same way and not worry about size/quality issues.
I hope all the pretense about new,new,new and improved shrink doesn't discourage people from moving up to CCE/Rebuilder.
Newbie-DVDshrink
Top of the line-DVDrebuilder
Seems simple doesn't it.{

 

Hey all, looks like you guys been busy! Soph, dd, haven't done any testing yet, unfortunately had a stroke in the family and things have been hectic. I pretty much figured the outcome, however I will try to check it out in the upcoming week.

Hey soph, you are our senior, buddy. Keep up the good work! I'll try to catch ya later, I'm just popping in to say hi and answer a few threads real quick. Hopefully things will calm down in the next couple of days.

brian, haven't tried the 4:3 to 16:9 conversion, but have often been tempted since I try to do all my backups in the widescreen format. This is a very good thing to know it works well. Did it increase time on the project? Now that RB/CCE is your app now, I seem to remember someone telling me IC 8 was the way to go, heh heh.(I still use IC 8 with compressions between 20%-35% using remake for editing, works very well) BTW, so ya like your new setup, huh, it looks good.

Doc(and brian), I certainly can understand the "what's the point" on any more shrink vs. anything(especially RB/CCE), but I am curious to know the quality difference with the smooth setting since in all my tests I used the default setting of sharp. From what soph and 6402 say, it's not much but I'd like to see for myself.lol

terrytj-glad to know you had a successful backup, very good! Altho I can promise you sooner or later you will make a coaster, lol, speaking from experience. You did very well to have researched, then asked questions, then tried the backup process. congrats!