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Which Transcoding Tools Produce The Best Picture Quality.

Discussion in 'Copy DVD to DVDR' started by Sophocles, Jun 5, 2004.

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    I haven't had this problem yet with different harddrives and speeds but if I get another buffer error I'll check it out on the offending backup.
    It could explain better why some people had more problems with buffer errors than others.
     
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    Wow. This is way beyond weird. I sometimes use 3 drives: one for DVD-RB, another holding the ISO image that is mounted, and a third for output....

    Leave it the way it is and label the fix as "FM"
     
  3. brobear

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    As long as I don't have to worry about it any more, you can call the problem whatever you want to. As for jdobbs label, I'm almost afraid to ask what FM stands for, but I'll play the shill.

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    What does "FM" stand for?

    BigO
    It seems if there is an off the wall prob, I get it. It was getting exasperating, however it was one of those problems I had set aside until I got some free time. So, I hadn't been going at it since I initially tried setting up RB. The program worked just enough that I knew I wanted to see a finished product.
     
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    I've always heard it as PFM - Pure *!@#$ Magic.
     
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    Thanks Vurbal, I think I get the picture.
     
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    That's what I thought he meant, but without the pure.

    Brobear, there's more buzz about this FU(guess what that stands for) than I've seen in a while in this thread! This may clear up problems for a bunch of people.
     
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    I'm thinking the same thing. This is a significant finding. It will be interesting to see just how many people can fix their buffer overflow problems by staying on one drive? Iknow I had the problem a lot more than I ever let on, and just about walked away from RB-CCE.


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  8. brobear

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    My wits may be a bit slow today from being up late working with the software, but I think I get that one. I wonder if my problem was a 'one in several million' deal or a bit more common? I'm just glad there are some knowledgable people around that assisted with the problem. It didn't appear to be a logical solution, but we arrived at the cure anyway.

    As vurbal and jdobbs mentioned, it may just be PFM.
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    brobear, You got that right! The more I think about it, the bigger it is. Watch everybody start suggesting to put it all on one drive when they see somebody has a buffer problem. LOL

    Doc, you weren't fooling anybody, I remember your frustration! lol
     
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    brobear...I think it is more common than one might think. I'm also thinking this is why it showed up in Remake more...because files are ripped on C, but exported to D because of a time savings. From there, any further RB activity is always going to be on 2 different drives.
     
  11. brobear

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    In that case wouldn't it be a simple matter to just run ReMake on D and export the finished product to C? Unless I figure out a further fix, that will be the route I'll have to take.
     
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    We have to get brobear's problem in the Q and A section. It seems that in some cases splitting drives may be a probelm.


    brobear what channel do you have drive D on and is it being shared with other devices such as a CD Rom?
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    In a sense, yes, files can be ripped to any drive.

    With my previous setup I had a smaller, 5600 drive where I kept the program files. I ripped to this drive so I could export to the larger, faster 7200 w/8MB secondary drive. When things end up back on the smaller drive, though, it defeats the purpose of the larger drive. Because of this, I think that a lot of folks gravitate towards using the larger, secondary drive, and it could be those folks that are having most of the problems.


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    Some people are also using their drives on the same IDE channel as a CDRom and that could cause just such a problem.
     
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    Soph ... got the Q & A (#8) updated with the split drive fix.

    Having the CD ROM on the same IDE channel is a little harder to envision how it could be a problem ... since it wouldn't be active in the encoding process?

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    Looks like you guys had quite a day. I just arrived home after a less than exciting after hours meeting at work only to find you guys having an online party. Glad brobear finally is on board.

    Hmm! Is it just be or is bigo doing more daytime posting?
     
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    I was thinking along the lines of a general problem where slower HDs were causing the problems rather than just multiple HDs causing problems.

    I use a smaller SCSI drive for the OS and 2 7200 rpm drives for the source and destination. I'm not figuring anyone would have problem a problem doing the same but I don't see much slowdown in using one big fast hard drive.
    Using the extra drive for the OS is nice for remote controlling without bugging the encoding so I can kep track.
     
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    If I'm following you here, I've not had any slowdown problems by using just one large drive ... with the exception of Remake. It is faster to export the ripped files to another drive.
     
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    I began thinking that what might have been occurring is something along the lines of a Semaphore timeout, where the problem with RB/CCE was actually preceded by the slowing of the file transfer by his hardware.
     
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    The DMA settings for a CDROM are much slower than they are for a hard disk (DMA 2 versus DMA 5), by having them on the same IDE channel you force the faster of the two to default to the slower one. there's nothing wrong with it except that your hard disk will like take a performance hit.

    http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,102525,pg,2,00.asp

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q191837
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