Which Transcoding Tools Produce The Best Picture Quality.

Doc

Now we have to get him into batch processing. With bigo he'd have to do it in the day while he slept, come to think of it, brobears a bit of a Night Owl too.

 

Well, i had homework last night and my sis ran into internet trouble w. her laptop i am running RB/CCE right now.

 

I was thinking the same thing .. about getting brobear into the Batch mode. I suspect it might be a week or two before he's interested...as a little bit of a track record may be needed. Call it guarded optimism.



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I'm trying to make sense of a "little" problem. Realizing that DVDs which go back a few years often come in around 4 GB, it seems it would make sense to just rip with Decrypter and burn with Nero. When I do this, I have been getting a some pixelation and freeze frames. Nothing drastic, but even once in a movie is enough to be annoying. When I run the movie though a transcoder ... and most recently the RB-CCE setup ... things come out OK. The thing is, I am wondering why a DVD-5 size file would be a problem to burn directly to disc right out of the ripper? Any ideas?
(PS: I'm using G04's)

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Doc

Bad media could explain the skipping but not the pixelation. I've burned a large number of type 5's lately I've been collecting old Bogart films and other greats such as Citizen Kane. Have you tried ripping them with DVD Shrink to see if there's a difference?
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For the most part it has been the Frame freezes. Since I shouldn't be having a problem, I'll zero in on the media. I haven't been using Shrink because it wouldn't make any sense to remove any languages, etc. when things are a DVD-5, but I will give that a try.

Soph ... Are you trying any filters with the B & W's?


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The copy's I've got of Citizen Kane and the Maltese Falcon have already been cleaned up and I can’t see any benefit to using more filters. Where I see a benefit to filters are with those old rock concerts that were filmed with ¾ inch cams in a dark auditorium.

 

That's good to know. I recently BU'd Casablanca, and was thinking about doing some of of the other classics.

 

doc, surely as long as you have been here, media couldn't be your problem. How many times have you seen Verbatim and Ritek mentioned and recommended in this forum-2,000, 3,000, 5,000 times? If you tell me you're using Memorex I'm gonna sic Pete on ya.

I must say since I only use DVDCopy 2 for newer movies now I haven't seen any pixelation or other problems, color or B&W, with any app I've used. I just did "Some like it Hot", "Harvey", and "Bringing up Baby-all B&W and all with Shrink or ripped with Decrypter.

Soph, I must remind you once again I don't sleep all day, 6:00am to 10:30am works nicely, thank you very much. heh heh

 

Big-O, please don't sic Pete on me. I promise, I'm using G04's, and I've confirmed this with ID S/W. That's what I found hard to understand about the glitches. It might have just been a bad batch. I'm into another now, and I will be checking.

 

Doc

Try some of the Ridata, they come in red cake boxes, tbey're RICOHJPN and I've almost gone through 100 without a single coaster. The first 100 was $59.99 and the second was 47.99 at newegg.com I can't say for certain but I've heard
whispers across the net about a bad batch of Ritek being sold as Premium. Try another media because it might also reveal a burner particularity.
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He's back?

Was my verbosity actually missed?

As a few know, I've had my hands in more fires than I can easily handle. I'd set aside the RB/CCE problem until just recently when I asked for help with the problem. I'd worked with it off and on while following the threads. So, I have a slight working knowledge of the program. I just hadn't got it to run to completion. I tested the program now that it is running under conditions I won't record with. So, I'm sure the program will work well. jdobbs built a good program here.

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There I feel no need to spend any time getting a security feeling, I already have it. I'll be jumping into tweaking and running batch files now as time permits and as I learn the process. As far as following jdobbs suggestion and recording the pristine product, I'm there now, finally.

 

I also remember hearing something about some bad G04's out there before I took delivery of the ones I have now, but figured if it was true, they would have worked their way through the system. Maybe not. thanks for the Ridata lead .. I'll give 'em a try.

 

Is that from the story about Ritek not watching the quality or where the theft of a batch of low quality disks were sold as the top line product. Ritek does make a low quality disk for 3rd World countries for data storage.

 

well, I just finished RB/CCE w. ROTK, but, to my disappointment, the final size of the disk is:
3.36 GB (3,608,498,176 bytes).

My ini file:

[Options]
OneClick=1
NoWarn=1
AudioDub=0
idct7Opt=1
RemoveDTS=1
LoadPlugin=1
CCETargetSectors=2260000
Completed=1
[Setup]
Languages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
sLanguages=1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[Paths]
CCEBasic=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\Cinema Craft Encoder Basic\cct2.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\dvd-rb057\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
Source=G:\VIDEO_TS\
Working=C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\CJ\DESKTOP\LOTR ROTK WORKING DIR\
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=2

Thanks everyone for there support

 

brobear...I've heard both stories. I purchased the latest 100 about 4 weeks ago, so I would like to think I was beyond the effects of any of these.

 

@ Pop_Smith ... are you using the CCE Basic trial version? This 3.36 GB file size is about what others have come up with. The Basic trial does not yield a complete file.

 

Pop, I hate to say this, but brobear had the exact same problem when he got his to work, so he did a complete reinstall and voila!-4.3.

 

Noticed CCETargetSectors=2260000 in the options setup. That is a command some try to use for setting file size. It didn't work for me as I stated earlier. It only took me from a 2.9 to a 2.93 GB size. So, it isn't a definite fix.

Doc, that is what the CCE site says about the Basic trial. So, even getting a 3.36 GB file, he would be well over a 3 min encode. The SP is the only trial version to use and I believe that takes some additional setup doesn't it?

About the stolen substandard Riteks, seems there is some truth to that on the European market. Ritek said there had been some theft of materials that should have been destroyed. The ones that were causing the problem in the UK was from a batch of the ones intended for the 3rd World countries. They had a 'Mountain and Stream' label and were being hawked by unscrupulous vendors as top line Ritek. That was a while back. Ritek said they were stolen on the way to the incinerator; they weren't even up to par for the low grade standards of the intended market.

As far as the inferior quality batches, I have heard rumor, but no one seems to have offered any concrete evidence on the quality variation. Seems there to, there was some word by some vendors in Europe that their products were the top line product and those of the competition were suspect of being low quality. You can see how some of those rumors got started. Some of the rumors were even perpetuated here on AD.

I'm not saying Ritek didn't mess up and get some bad product out there. Some people may have some legit proof as well. However, there is a lot of unfounded rumor floating around. Most of the reputable vendors will replace any poor quality products. Even some companies. For instance, Memorex has a replacement policy; you send in the defective merchandise for replacement. Meritline, the recommended E retailer for Ritek U.S.A. boasts 100% Grade A Genuine Quality Guaranteed and a 60 Day Money Back Guarantee. Here is the link to their site.
http://www.meritline.com/ritek-dvd-blank-media.html
Appears there is a decent guarantee on the Ritek products, so I don't think anyone has too much to worry about as long as they make their purchases from a legitimate dealer. If a deal is too good to be true from an unknown vendor, it usually is.
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Pop-smith

Did the process complete without the buffer error this time.
Does the movie play.
Is avisynth installed.
Is it on C: drive.