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Which Transcoding Tools Produce The Best Picture Quality.

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  1. Pop_Smith

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    @Bigo, what exactly do you mean by complete reinstall? I did completely uninstall the CCE SP Trial i was using as well as uninstall and delete all the folders that had anything to do with CCE SP, Avisynth, RB, etc. I then rebooted and ran disk clean up. Then i reinstalled RB using vurbal's guide.
    (Thanks very much vurbal for you ReMake guide, it came in handy)

    @640, Yes, it did complete this time with no buffer error.
    In a way, the video is purple and pink, its pixelated.
    Yes, avisynth is installed to C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5.
     
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    Have you played one of the AviSynth files directly to see what they look like. I suspect they'll look fine since I think that's been the case with other people who have had this problem. I think it's a CCE issue, but I don't know that anybody's nailed down what causes it.
     
  3. Doc409

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    @ Pop_Smith...I think what bigorange means is to reinstall your operating system and then all your software. Starting with a reformated drive isn't a bad idea either. You had CCE SP 2.67.00.27 installed previously, which jdobbs posted that those using this version were "on their own" because of all the inherent problems that went with it. One can only speculate at this point, but it may be that this version caused something like a registry change that cannot be corrected by just installing another version. In this case the only fix would be to redo the registry, which means a complete clean install.

    I also noticed from another thread that strange video colors with OK audio is a sign that the DVD wasn't ripped with something like Decrypter before being sent through RB-CCE. You might want to confirm you used ripped files.

    @brobear...I purchased the G04's from Meritline, which also gives me the idea that I got good media. That's another reason why I was looking to software as a source of the freeze problem. As best I can tell right now, the freezes happened on 3 different movies/discs, and I think I have it narrowed down to the first cake I used. I'm now into the 3rd of 4 - 25 pc cakes right now. Now that I am checking the discs burn by burn, all seems OK with the last 10 or so.

    Concerning my question to Pop_Smith about the trial CCE Basic, I initailly thought the same thing about the file size and what the CCE site says. However, the reduced file size that Pop_Smith reported is what bappida69 was getting on the "Are you havng problems" thread: Aug 22/bapidda69: [bold]"I had started on an empty folder. The original movie was 5.62 GB. When I started DVD RB, I chose just two audio tracks(there were three initially). After it was rebuilt, the TS folder was about 3.2 GB and the VIDEO_TS was avout 3.5 GB or so(it seemed to have the entire movie)"[/bold] In bapidda69's next post on Aug 22 they indicated they were using CCE Basic trial, at which time 6402 informed them they would need to use the SP trial. There are times when none of this figures, so I thought I would at least confirm the version being used.


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  4. jdobbs

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    Doc409,

    I get my blanks from Meritline too. Normally the G04 Inkjet printable blanks... I got what appeared to be an entire bad stack of 25 (out of a set of 4) in my last shipment. Several of them had "freeze" problems... I reburned the exact same DVD-RB output to different discs and everything was fine.

    Send them back.
     
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  5. brobear

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    Doc409
    I just threw that in there from the CCE site. I thought they might know something about their own downloads and trials. Sometimes, people get confused about the versions they get.


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  6. Doc409

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    jdobbs...thanks. These were also inkjet printables (white). Ritek has such a good reputation, bad media didn't seem a possibility. I tossed the bad ones already, but may find more, since I haven't had time to enjoy watching all the backups involved yet.

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  7. Doc409

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    nla (no longer applicable)
     
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  8. brobear

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    Pop-Smith may have gotten the wrong idea about the clean setup. That meant cleaning out anything that remotely had anything to do with the setup and reinstalling a fresh download of all the necessary files and not saving the ini file setup, but starting from scratch with that as well. I had the same problem with the over compression. I'm not sure about the rest of it. Doc409, you're right about the Basic Trial. If he is using CCE Basic, it has to be the complete retail version. It's obvious a complete clean install wasn't done, unless he typed in some of the commands under the option setup. The only way this command (CCETargetSectors=2260000) gets in is if it's copied or typed in. I think the best thing to do for Pop-smith is delete the complete RB/CCE setup including Avisynth from ADD Remove in the control panel run the registry cleaner, reboot and then proceed with a fresh install of the program, which means every last component. I reloaded everything including a fresh download and setup of CCE.
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    Pop, I did not mean anything but RB/CCE on the re-install. I was under the impression you were using the paid for Basic version and I believe so were most others.... brobear had a sizing pproblem after he got his going amd a re-install fixed the situation, however he also had a paid Basic version.

    Everyone who has had these problems, most all have been using trial versions. As in Bappida who doc referred to. The same exact thing happened.

    I, like many others went ahead and bought Basic and avoided most of the problems the others have been experiencing with trial versions.

    So, the reason I suggested the Re-install is that it seemed to fix everyone's sizing problems after they got it going.
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  10. Doc409

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    brobear...I was wondering how the "CCETargetSectors=2260000" got in there because it isn't a click-type of option. I was under the impression that Pop Smith was going to go exactly by the guide this time.

    Big-O...the day after tomorrow!!! When's kickoff...1:30? ...48 hours to go.

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  11. brobear

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    That command is one sometimes used when trying to repair the over compression problem. Looks like Pop-smith found some of the same info I did. The only way for the command to get in there is from copying or typed in. Either way Pop-smith isn't following the guide completely. As I posted previously, his best bet is a rebuild of the program from scratch, all components.
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  12. ddlooping

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    Hi all. :)

    Seriously off-topic there, but I need serious help from PC gurus. :(

    Are there any of you about?
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  13. Doc409

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    I don't know if I've reached guru status yet, but what's up?
     
  14. ddlooping

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    Hi Doc, thanks for coming to my rescue. :)

    I got my new PC (Dell Dimension 4700) yesterday.
    I added a second SATA drive to it (the only IDE connection was taken by the CD-RW and DVD-ROM).
    After some fiddling, Windows recognised it.

    This morning, I received a Pioneer A108 (DVD-RW DL).
    I swapped it with the CD-RW.
    It is set as Master (out of the box), the DVD-ROM left as Slave (from Dell factory).
    Started the PC and got an error message:
    "Drive 3 Not Found: Parallel ATA, Pata 0 (Pri IDE Master)".
    It could have been "Pata 1" and/or (Pri IDE Slave)", I don't remember.
    Went to the "Device Manager", and the Pioneer wasn't listed.
    Restarted, checked the Bios, and the drive's details were missing: "ID not found".
    Re-opened the PC, unplugged the two drives, replugged them without making any changes.
    Restarted the PC.
    The error is now "Drive 3 Not Found: Parallel ATA, Pata 1 (Pri IDE Slave)".
    Checked the Bios, and it's now the DVD-ROM (Toshiba Samsung) that is shown as: "ID not found".
    Restarted the PC (same error).
    The "Dell" load-up screen now stays on for 30 seconds (as opposed to ~3 seconds).
    The "Windows XP" load-up screen stays on for about 3 minutes (as opposed to ~10 seconds).
    The "Windows XP is loading..." for about a minute (as opposed to a few seconds)..
    The "Welcome" screen ~1 minute (as opposed to ~3 seconds)..

    I went back to the device manager (which took quite a while to appear), and found two "Primary IDE Channel" listed (which I think I had previously noticed).
    I checked their properties and get:
    1)
    - Advanced Settings: Device 0 / UDMA Mode 5.
    - Advanced Settings: Device 1 / UDMA Mode 5.
    2)
    - Advanced Settings: Device 0 / UDMA Mode 2.
    - Advanced Settings: Device 1 / Auto Detection ("None" is the only other option) / DMA if available / Transfer mode: Not applicable.

    ?????
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    Edited the previous post: meant to say the DVD-ROM was not being seen/recognised after having unplugged/re-plugged the drives.
     
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    DD...I don't know if I can be much help, as I have no experience with SATA drive setups...but at least the situation is out here for others to read.

    The slow boot time for me is usually caused by either a jumper being in the wrong place, or from a drive...either CD/DVD ROM or HDD...that has gone bad and still being hooked up. I would test the ROM by itself as a stand-alone master to see what happens.

    I would also reset the bios (MB jumper) so that I could go in on reboot and reset things the way I wanted them. I would then see how long a reboot takes.


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  17. ddlooping

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    Thanks for the advice, Doc, I'm off to unplug one of the optical drives to see if I can pinpoint the problem. ;)

    One thing I forgot to mention: the PC was working fine until I installed the Pioneer A108, set as Master (replacing a CD-RW set as Master).
     
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    I'm also thinking the Pioneer is going to require a firmware upgrade. I don't believe this would account for the slow boot time, however.
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    Add on: The other thing is that I don't know how much driver support XP has for DVD drives (I use W2K), so it would be a good idea to have some kind of burner software installed like Nero. 'Wouldn't hurt to install Shrink and Decrypter, either.


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    Doble "D"

    A new computer eh! Primary channel your hard disk, secondary channel your Roms. Would give more but I have a parent waiting, it's conference night.
     
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    Hi Sophocles. Thanks for the reply. :)

    You're like the cavalry showing up after the battle, though. LOL

    I managed to sort this mess out. :D
    The Samsung DVD-ROM jumper was actually set to "Cable Select". *ddlooping hides in embarrassment*
    I set it to Slave, and, to tidy things up, physically moved the Pioneer above it ("Drive 0" on the cable).
    I'm a happy camper. :)

    Now - well, actually tomorrow - onto trying to fix my old PC, lol.
     
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