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Which Transcoding Tools Produce The Best Picture Quality.

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  1. vurbal

    vurbal Administrator Staff Member

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    Says the man who writes DVD backup software in his spare time ;)
     
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    Sophocles Senior member

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    So true! But Vurbal! Says the man who writes the guides about the man who writes the DVD backup soft in his spare time.

    Thanks to you both.
     
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    I'm happy to do it, but let's not forget your own contributions in comparing different software and spending many hours helping others. Really, it's a combination of all those things that (hopefully) allows others to get as much out of all our work as we've gotten from the people whose work we've benefited so much from.
     
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    Bigorange,
    I did Ned kelly with DVDdecrypter at 1x and anydvd in the background. Some drives won't slow to 1x. My 1300 Necs won't read below 2x and can't read Ned kelly all the way through.
    My 2500s work fine when set to 1x read.

    Make sure you use the latest beta Anydvd. They have the actual setting for removing this protection. Ver 4.032 I think.
     
  5. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    6402

    Thanks for the advice.

    Dual layer discs are still $10 each, I'm not sure that they'll ever be mainstreamed. I think that they will continue to sit in the shadows until blu-ray or some other supersedeing equivalent will leave them behind.
     
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    Concerning Ned Kelly, I used AnyDVD 3.9.4.2 with Remake Pro, thus bypassing DVD Decrypter. This may shed some light on why I didn't have a problem.

     
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    Doc, even using remake,(i actually find it works better ripping to the HD 1st), the corrupted file is in the middle of the movie, not at the beginning like others with this method of stumping guys like us. So I'm not sure I'm seeing how it would help.

    6402, actually I tried decrypter with that method,no go. I also run AnyDVD with shrink and find it helps it out also. In fact anydvd runs all the time on my PC, it comes on with the start up menu. I'm not sure about the version, I haven't DL'd the latest yet. But if they have a setting just for this kind of protection, i am very impressed. i will give it a try.


    jdobbs, you write a wonderful program like rebuilder and you CAN"T remember how you backed up a movie? My illusions are shattered, a new book maybe-"jdobbs, the man behind the myth, lol. ;)


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    I usually don't go from the DVD-ROM into Remake because of the extra time it takes. I had time to spare on this one.
     
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    I've ordered the movie and it should be here in a few days. There were some other movies out there that also had a similar problem and I over came it by just getting different copy. Remember a lot of people had a problem with the Butterfly Effect. If a movie doesn't work then take it back and get one that does. I think these kinds of problems are caused by bad pressings that result in a defective disc.
     
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    Sophocles,

    From what I understand, this is an intentional method designed to block guys like us who wish to back up their DVD's. Unfortunately not all the copies have it, some do and some don't. You may very well get a copy that doesn't.

    That's a switch isn't it? You actually want a DVD that causes problems?lol

    Also, the Butterfly Effect was a different matter. It's difficulty was not from encryption but one from the infinifilm feature which made it a nightmare in DRM. However there was no problem in ripping it. :)
     
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    I used the Butterfly Effect because I ripped it and backed it using RB/CCE without a single problem.
     
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    You didn't try to edit it then, BTW, I thought that was a good movie.
     
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    It was a good movie and that's why I didn't edit it. The premise of the movie is based on the "Chaos Theory." Does the air moved from a single flap of a butterflies wing in Soth America cause a hurrican somewhere else in the world?
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    I had tried 2 Ked Kellys and the file was in the same spot that had the problem. If the defect was part of the disc then it wouldn't have read smoothly with no retries when I was using DVDdecrypter and Anydvd at 1x. This method doesn't work when there is a visible defect on the DVD.

    Bigorange,

    What are you using to read the DVD? Is DVDdecrypter verifying that the drive is actually reading at 1x?
    My Nec 1300s can be set to 1x but the log shows that the actual is 2x.
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    I liked Butterfly effect. I watched the alternate endings but wasn't so happy with the directors cut ending.
     
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    When I said defective pressing I meant that every DVD off that same line also got the defect. Standalone DVD players can overlook some errors and continue playing as though nothing was wrong but a ripper will catch it.
     
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    I was thinking a defective pressing wouldn't backup at all where as Ned Kelly will.
     
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    No it's possible to get around some bad pressings, I've done it before but the best case scenario is to get a copy that has no defect.
     
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    An after thought. Pete and drchips stated that there was problem with DVD Decrypter ripping the movie K-19 The Wido wmaker. It was their contention that Decrpter somehow damaged the IFO file. I got a copy of the movie ripped with Decrypter and used RB/CCE to encode. I had to provied proof that I'd succeded before Pete believed me.
     
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    Also If these were bad pressings then in the past month they have been putting out a lot of bad ones. Just a few months ago I had only seen one brand new movie with an invisible defect that would stop the backup. I have seen 5 here recently.
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