Please explain why you need 2 programs to copy dvd's. Also, I have read in the guides instructions using dvd shrink and nero, along with downloading dvd decrypter. I recently replaced my older HP CD-Writer with a DVD-writer. I ended up with 4 different CD/DVD writing programs on my computer, of which none seemed to work correctly. Though I managed to back up data files and create audio cd's with the Adaptec (Roxio)Easy CD Creator, I never mastered the art of ripping. I also have CyberLink's Power DVD, Sonic's MyDVD, and a ripped version of Nero (never installed, so I don't know if it works). I finally removed all programs from my system in an effort to start from scratch, and here I am! Everybody seems obsessed with copying DVD movies, and though I'm not going to say that this is not an interest, I am actually looking more for a program to back up data and create audio cd's. The ability to copy DVD's would be a plus. Please offer insight.