woes.... help please!

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  1. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    here's one of my 16x Discs-
    seeing this has jogged something. Had a quick check and i remember looking into NEC drives before - see throughout this thread - someone had an NEC 1000A and another had an 1100A in this thread - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/1/197820

    Another thing i remembered is this - http://herrie.org/upgrdr.html - Basically you could upgrade your drive very slightly, by changing it into an NEC 1300A. This would allow you to burn to -R discs, but only at 4.0x for DVD-R and 2.0x for DVD-RW discs.

    But as your drive stands, it is only presently capable of burning to 4.0x DVD+R and 2.4x DVD+RW discs (i guess you know this, i'm just playing catch up as i only just remembered all this)

     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    so now i realise you're limited to buying only 4x media, which is gonna start getting scarce due to 16x discs out now....
     
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    Hi there,

    But I'm sure, as 4x media goes away, 8x and 16x media prices will start to drop.

    Those older drives, like my LG-4040B which is a 4x burner also, should work with those new media, else I'm sure/I hope LG will release a new firmware to support those new media.

    Question: If all I can burn is 4x max, I don't think new firmware is needed to burn 4x on 8x or 16x media !
     
  4. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    this is something i'm not sure about; i only recently bought 16x medis for my drive as one of the other guys advised my firmware was fine with 16x specifically, however surely if a 4x drive (being fairly old) isn't aware of anything over 4x then won't it have a problem even recognising newer disks IF newer firmware isn't brought out. I see many posts each night where various burners' firmware is already say a year out of date ?...
     
  5. sp00g

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    so essentially, those discs are worthless to me...
    can i return it to TDK even if im missing a few dvds?

    and i can upgrade my drive and that would let me burn -R and maybe solve my TDK dvd problem?

    why isnt dvdinfopro reading my dvds though?
     
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    Hi there,

    What is the Media ID of those TDK ?

    VSO Inspector or DVDInfoPro should be able to at least give you that.
     
  7. sp00g

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    i posted everything dvdinfopro gave me on my earlier post
    damn, i was soooo close...
     
  8. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    he's getting incomplete media info readings.

    @sp00g - what speed discs are they ?
     
  9. sp00g

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    8x they are

    the case says they are 8x compatible and higher
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    this is where i need cougar_ii's help - i think it depends if your drive is drive is capable with current or future firmware to READ 8x media
     
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    odd...
    wouldnt 8x cds be compatible with 8x and under?
     
  12. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    my drive can read 16x recordable media and the max the drive can write is 12x. your drive is 3yrs old and unless i've missed something, it just cannot read 8x - or + media, therefore cannot be expected to write to 8x media at lower speeds.

    http://www.dvd-recordable.org/Article54-mode=thread-order0-threshold0.phtml

    i'll happily be proved wrong but that's my understanding
     
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  13. joebaxter

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    the easiest way for me when it comes to mds/mdf files is that i mount it in the virtual drive in Alcohol 120% then i use dvd shrink to backup the move to the hard drive then i burn the movie with nero
    that's just me :)

    thanks

    joebaxter
     
  14. sp00g

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    @creaky
    i think your right...
    my HP cds were 4x...

    shouldnt Dell have firmware for me so i can update my drive to read 8x dvds?
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    not always.. it's like anything, it's all about money at tge end of the day..
     
  16. sp00g

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    so my best bet would be to buy 4x dvds or get a new drive?
    ill call Dell, by the way and tell you guys what they say...
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    up to you, 4x media should be around a while yet;

    here in UK i can buy the latest NEC (think the latest is still the 3540A) for 30quid or so..
     
  18. sp00g

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    30 pounds isnt so bad...
    does it matter what kind of drive i buy?
    NEC, etc.
     
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    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    if i was gonna buy another drive it would probably be whatever the NEC drive of the month is (they seem to churn out drives like i don't know what)
     
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    hey guys, im back XD
    i called Dell, they said the same thing "the media probably cant be read/wrote by a drive with 4x capability"
    Ummm, when TDK writes "For use with 8x DVD+R/RW Drives/Recorders"
    doe they mean that? :S

    P.S. can anyone find me a ps2 game copying tut? :p thanks ^^
     

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