I'm tired. Tired of reading all of the dvd this and dvd shrinks and the dvd clones, etc, etc,many of which are involved with this website that all talk about how they work with anything. I've bought them all and the only one that still works most of the time is dvd xcopy. Say what you will, post what you will, I have no vested interest in any of these products except for my own well being and the well being of my dvd's that I'm trying to back up. I've backed up hundreds if not thousands for my own personal use. I've only probably watched about 30 of them. If anyone out there has the secret to the combination of these products that will back up the Sony's and Disney's and the new Season 2 of Lost... please let me know. I'm not an idiot but I must be doing something wrong with the Sony's and Disney's and Lost's. Please don't respond with, "What type of media are you using?" or "What type of burner do you have?" or "What did you eat last night for dinner?" because none of that makes very much difference unless you're using an 8 track tape with an Atari 3600 and Donkey Kong. It's not any of these. I've used 10 different kinds of dvd-r's and 5 different burners all with the same positive and negative results. It's the movies and only the movies. Does anything other than x-copy really work? I'm tired. DVD BURNERS UNITE!