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Xvid seek , fast forward, rewind not working in my standalone player

Discussion in 'DivX / XviD' started by macron0, Mar 5, 2010.

  1. macron0

    macron0 Member

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    Hi,

    I am trying to make my own xvid avi's from PAL DV cam.

    I can actually create those and they play fine on the pc, in media player and zoom player.

    But on my standalone player they work but when I search (seek, or fast forard or rewind) it gets stuck. Sometimes it starts playing again but with the audio way out of sync.

    Maybe it's the players fault, but it does play every xvid I downloaded the last 2 years perfectly so I am sure it can play xvid well and it must be my xvid encoding settings.

    I have been comparing the settings with mediainfo but there seems to be no difference bewteen my encoded files and the downloaded xvids.

    I also tried encoding with low (and high) bitrates (+- 1100/4000) and that does not help.

    I also tried advanced simple @ L5 but nothing seems to help.

    I use xvid 1.2.1 in combination with vegas 9. (I also tried it with procoder 2 some time ago and had the same problem) I also noticed many tv shows are also encoded with xvid 1.2.1 so this should not be the problem.

    Does anyone know why this happens and how to fix it? It must be a very silly reason but I cannot find it. I have been googleing for days now and can't find any usefull answer.

    Thank you.

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    Compare videos in MediaInfo to see if the video is 'Packed Bitstream'
     
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    Hi thanks for your reply,

    So far I always turned of packed bitstream. Coz I read it might cause problems.

    I do not see any mention about it in themdiainfo (0.7.27)

    I forgot to mention that I tried both: Format settings, Matrix mpeg en H.263

    Here is my encoded example file mediainfo output:

    General
    Complete name : Y:\vegas_output\20090815_Kevin_en_dean_verjaardag.avi
    Format : AVI
    Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
    File size : 53.7 MiB
    Duration : 2mn 44s
    Overall bit rate : 2 738 Kbps
    TCOD : 57600000
    TCDO : 1702800000

    Video
    ID : 0
    Format : MPEG-4 Visual
    Format profile : Simple@L0
    Format settings, BVOP : No
    Format settings, QPel : No
    Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
    Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
    Codec ID : XVID
    Codec ID/Hint : XviD
    Duration : 2mn 44s
    Bit rate : 2 507 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 576 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 5:4
    Frame rate : 25.000 fps
    Standard : PAL
    Resolution : 8 bits
    Colorimetry : 4:2:0
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.242
    Stream size : 49.2 MiB (92%)
    Writing library : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04)

    Audio
    ID : 1
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Codec ID : 2000
    Duration : 2mn 44s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 160 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : L R
    Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
    Stream size : 3.13 MiB (6%)
    Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
    Interleave, duration : 250 ms (6.25 video frames)
    Interleave, preload duration : 278 ms



    And here is one of a show that works perfect:

    General
    Complete name : S:\new\files\Burn.Notice.S03E15.HDTV.XviD-XII.[VTV].avi
    Format : AVI
    Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
    File size : 349 MiB
    Duration : 42mn 39s
    Overall bit rate : 1 143 Kbps

    Video
    ID : 0
    Format : MPEG-4 Visual
    Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
    Format settings, BVOP : Yes
    Format settings, QPel : No
    Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
    Format settings, Matrix : Default (MPEG)
    Codec ID : XVID
    Codec ID/Hint : XviD
    Duration : 42mn 39s
    Bit rate : 1 004 Kbps
    Width : 624 pixels
    Height : 352 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 23.976 fps
    Resolution : 8 bits
    Colorimetry : 4:2:0
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.191
    Stream size : 306 MiB (88%)
    Writing library : XviD 1.3.0.dev55

    Audio
    ID : 1
    Format : MPEG Audio
    Format version : Version 1
    Format profile : Layer 3
    Format_Settings_Mode : Joint stereo
    Format_Settings_ModeExtension : MS Stereo
    Codec ID : 55
    Codec ID/Hint : MP3
    Duration : 42mn 39s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 126 Kbps
    Nominal bit rate : 128 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Stream size : 38.6 MiB (11%)
    Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
    Interleave, duration : 24 ms (0.58 video frame)
    Interleave, preload duration : 42 ms
    Writing library : LAME3.90.
    Encoding settings : -m j -V 4 -q 2 -lowpass 17.6 --abr 128



     
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    I see now my avi file was encoded with Format profile : Simple@L0 But I also tried it with Advance Simple@5. like in the burnotice episode and that was even worse for me.

     
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    Okay I thnk I found the reason why vegas (any version) is sort of ususeable for day to day usage..

    First: Sony Vegas 9 (and the rest) is evil.

    Sony does not like it if you want to encode any audio to mp3 higher than 56 kbit. if you choose other mp3 codecs it fails and i think this is on purpose.

    I really like the editing options in vegas but right now I am forced to greate xvid movies with pcm uncompressed audio. Than use virtualdub to render it to an (xvid stream copy) avi with mp3 audio which will play on most standalone players.

    This alone is crazy for such an expensive video tool. And I think the only reason is that Sony does not like mp3 and sabotages standaard video rendering this way (I think one common standard is xvid with mp3 at at least 128 kbit)

    Anyway for you that use sony vegas.

    Reander your videio with xvid 1 or 2 pass or what ever video quality you want and use pcm uncompressed for audio.


    Tha use virtual dub to recompress the audio to mp3 and than you will have a working avi on most standalone players.










     

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