I have lived by ddp's list of spyware/malware/anti-virus cleaning programs Since 2005. He updated them for me Back in 2010 and then again in 2015. The old list from 2010. https://forums.afterdawn.com/threads/ddp-can-you-update-us-on-your-spyware-virus-list.719399/ Well, I feel it's that time again. So can you help me out ddp? what are you running these days on Windows? I saw a post that said he was leaving I hope he still visits!