Intel vs. AMD

Deadrum33, hows the AMD Opteron 175 working out? iam a few weeks away from getting mine .have you OC(ed) it yet

 

How did you break a 3700+? It sounds to me like you messed it up and it doesn't boot ever, so you just need a reset. I can't believe you managed to break a CPU just by overclocking it. Welcome back, but keep your murderous anger in the safety valve next time eh? You're not one to talk about not knowing about computers if you thought you trashed your CPU because it doesn't boot after an OC.
The X1900XT is quite a major leap from the X1800XT, it's about 40% faster, and will continue getting faster, because it has 48 pixel shaders rather than the X1800XT's 16. It's more money but well worth it. Avoid the X1900XT-X but go with the X1900XT. Best GPU purchase out there atm. OC it to make it an XT-X, and you've got a 7900GTX beater for a fair bit less money.

 

crowy,

I discovered a new trick. Reasoning that locking the memory at 400 makes that the start point for memory speed, I locked it at 320 again reasoning that the start point would be 320 on a 200MHz fsb. I'm now running a 20% OC on the 3.2 Pressler. CPUs at 3840MHZ on a 960 fsb. Memory runs at 400MHz. I ripped a DVD yesterday and saved 8 mins. I ripped the same DVD with these settings and saved another 49 seconds!! Here's the benches. Let me know what you think!!

Cpuz



Math



Memory Bandwidth



Multi-Media



I also noticed that when I went to Image Shack to host these benches, it was much faster. 4 seconds from the click of the mouse! Also the video part of the MM test goes by much faster. Temp loaded at 100% CPU is 42C in a 22C room. I think it's done!!! It's no AMD, but it's no slouch either!

Happy Computering,
theonejrs

 

Very nice. I've been wondering, which bar graph represents your PC, and which represents the simulated bench?

 

Tokijin,

The top one that says current. I also reset the memory timings to 2.5-4-4-5 which fattens up my bandwidth a little bit. So Far so good!!

Happy Computering,
theonejrs

 

EH PEOPLE LISTEN UP THIS IS AMD VS INTEL NOT OVERCLOCKING I SUGGEST YOU MAKE A NEW THREAD CALLED OVERCLOCKING.JUST AN IDEA

 

There already is one. It's located here:

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/83263

Overclocking forms a major part of which brand is better to us power users. The average joe won't care about his mhz, so we don't count those folks!

 

obviously amd is better.It is a proven fact and there new processor chip in the new alienware (£3000 i think)laptop is out of this world.

 

Hmmm, not necessarily any indication of their supremacy... I'm sure intel make a good laptop CPU as well, even though I'm an AMD fan at heart.

 

well i know for a fact intel make the shittest graphics cards in the world

 

But that's not their speciality is it? Intel only make poor graphics chips because they only make the budget versions for stock PCs without graphics cards. They work, don't they? For faster solutions they let ATi and nVidia use their experience. Intel is better off using their R&D efforts on stuff like Conroe and Woodcrest than making Integrated graphics faster, even if "extreme" is a bit of a joke. I think you'll find VIA and SIS' integrated chips to be even slower.

 

Hey, i am doing what i can, my computer rendomly shut down and would not start back up, my dad messed with it ( he took out the ream herd the beep, put in the ream and didnt hear a beep...... this is after i left the cmos battery out for about an hour and a half.. my dad i looking into it again tonight.. he blamed me because when i oced it, he said i damadged it, and then after play battlefront 2 for a long while it shut off and i finished it off from what he said.. i dono i am about to take the heatsink off and look at the chip.. i dono.. i am going to sack my allowance for 3 months and get a 3800 on zipzoomfly for 170.00??? and get the X1900XT.. i want to take my cpu to a friends so that i can see if it is actually fried.. i dono how to tell otherwise.. but any comments or sudjestions would be very benefitial..

Thanx,
FIHSNERD

 

Hmm, it's an understandable decision, but i'd be surprised if it's the cause. By all means try that with the CPU, it's a good test. You take the RAM out and you get no beep? I can't remember whether that's because taking the RAM out disables the BIOS from going any further or not. If it isn't, then RAM may be your problem. When my system was frying (unbeknown to me) the first thing that happened is that I got beeps and it hung at the "checking NVRAM" stage. So who knows...

 

PeterG969,

Yes this is AMD vs Intel, but when people do new builds benchmarks are asked to prove their stats otherwise they could just say any baloney they want. It's still very much AMD vs Intel. There are several builds going on right now. Some dual core AMDs, some dual core Intels and some single core Intels. That's why so many benchmarks posted at this time as it's the only accepted way for someone to prove their claims.

Happy Computering,
theonejrs

 

Damn this is fun!!!
New benches @2.80GHZ
Havent adjusted anything in the bios since last bench.

 

@theonejrs,
Looks like your having as much fun as me!!
I like your idea with the memory.
But I dont think you done yet
Im sure you can get higher on the fsb and up the memory voltage a tad without any trouble.Upping the mem voltage by even .1 volts really makes a difference.

 

O.K. i am sorry to bardge in.. and yes, my english sucks.. but what do i do with my computer, how can i tell if the cpu is fried.. my dad is going to talk to mwave and amd or whatever and see if he can replace it.. but i dont think that it is the cpu that is gone, btw: the system would not boot for a while when the video card was not pluged in.. i dont know it that is revelent, i am just stating.. Please help me, i dont want to spend money, if i dont half to...

Thanx,
Triock91

 

@FIHSNERD,
Have you tried clearing CMOS?

 

crowy,

I sure am!!! I see you use Sandra 2007! I went back to 2005. I don't like the fact that the results are hard to read on any screen and the really big one for me is that you can't maximize the results window. You can't read whats on a line as far as what you are comparing to and there's no slider to uncover what you can't see.

I've backed this one down to 3.80. I also bumped the DDR Refrence voltage to 2.65, changed the memory settings to 2.5-4-4-6. Runs good, numbers look good and seems quick. I've got to do some video work tomorrow so I'll see how that goes.

Just a word of encouragement. I've run my Corsair cas2 memory at 490MHz with no problems, I see you're at 458 so if you have their cas2 memory you can pretty well bet you have more room for memory speed. That is If the CPU can take the increase. I don't know very much about AMD processors in recent years All my AMD builds were socket 7 and socket A. I've got to learn more about the differences between AMD and Intel setups. My build was supposed to be an AMD Opteron 175. Didn't happen that way though!

Happy Computering,
theonejrs

 

@theonejrs,
Still going!!
I've relaxed the memory timings 2.5/4/4/10
Memory is on a 5/6 divider effectively 474mhz.
HTT is at 4x =1896mhz(default is 2000)
CPU is at 285x10 multiplier=2850mhz
Anyway heres the new benches