The FFMPEGX prog worked a treat and the quality was quite good too. Thx for your help. I am using the DATA tab in Toast as you would do with a Ripped DVD and that was successful. The one thing I haven't worked out though, is that I tried to drag two separate converted avi files with the hope that I could see two items as in a menu on the DVD, but could only play one, and it played as soon as launched. ie: there was no menu. How do I go about creating that? So I can access a menu and i see 2 or 3 or even 4 differents shows to watch?