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Playing Converted MKV files in BDP-S350 Player

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  1. BillN96

    BillN96 Member

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    First, thanks to all of you to all the helpful advice on the forum. Unfortunately I have run into an issue that I can not seem to find the solution for and I am asking for your help.

    I have some MKV files that I want to convert to AVCHD so I can watch them on my BluRay player (Sony BDP-S350). I convert the MKV file using the tsmuxerGUI program (I make sure the video profile level is 4.1 and select "Create BluRay disc"). I then copy the BDMP and CERTIFICATE folders to a DVD+R DL using imgBurn (using UDF 2.5).

    When I put the disc in my player it recognizes it and plays except the video looks like a split screen. The audio is perfect and the video is in sync, it is just this "spilt screen" issue. It is difficult to describe in words so I attached two photos. This has happened to me with two different MKV files so I am wondering if it is a setting issue.

    Has anyone ever seen this issue or have successfully played converted MKV files on the Sony BDP-S350? If so, what settings did you use when you muxed it?

    Thanks in advance for your help.

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  2. MaddogBC

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    I have a bdp s500 and have sucessfully played some 1 gig episode files by running them through tsremux on 4.1, and it seemed to work at 5.1 as well. I burned them to a bd-re and I have the latest firmware upgrade. For some reason I haven't been able to get movies working yet, I just upgraded to ffdshow and plan another round of tests. good luck.
     
  3. bladetd

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    hi, i have a same player and the same problem, did you find a solution to fix this problem i need a help too
     
  4. MaddogBC

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    Yes I did, it's the same solution for the majority of folks who come here with .mkv problems. Most downloaded mkv's are encoded with PC playback in mind and are not in a blu ray compliant resolution. They need to be re-encoded with a proper resolution. check out the sticky at the top of this forum. I have managed to use ripbot264 with some success, takes a long time if you don't have a quad core. I wish more people would stay with native blu ray resolution. Good luck!
     
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    hi, I tesed yesterday the program but after the conversion i have a small file, thewn can you send me a screenshot with the parameter that you use to convert the file i apraciate a lot

    Thx to all
     
  6. MaddogBC

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    try out this simple guide.

    Experimentation is always best, start out with the standard 4.x blu ray standalone profile. Hope you have a fast comp! :)
     
  7. dublin579

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    Hi guys,

    I'm having the EXACT same problem as the OP. I've tried the suggestions above re: ripbot etc but still have the exact same issue as per the screenshots in the original post. The weird thing is if I go to skip a chapter you can see the full image perfectly for a second, same if you pause in frame search! Anyone have any ideas?

     
  8. DirkDigg

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    I am also having the exact same problem with the Sony BDP-S350.
    I've tried many different strategies from almost every MKV to BD guide on the internet and i get the same wierd split screen result everytime.
    If anyone can figure out a solution to this please let me know, otherwise im gonna return the BDP-S350 and pick up a Samsung BD-P1500.
     
  9. BQSTUDIOS

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    Same here.unfortunately theres no solution as of yet. but i do know why this happens. its because of the aspect ratio. In order for the movie to play correctly on a sony DP-S350 the aspect ratio has to be 1280x720. problem is many movies arent. many are 1280x544. in which case will result in having a split screen like the pic above. Hope someone finds a solution soon.

    ps. If u own a ps 3 there is a way around this problem. In TS muxer, instead of chooseing the "create blu-ray" button, choose "m2ts muxing".
    This will fix similar aspect ratio problems in the ps3. Unfortunatley this option wont work with the sony bd-s350. sucks! thats why i keep tellin people the ps3 is hands down the best blu-ray player out there. it can play avchd's, m2ts, vob, avi, mpg, mpeg-4, wmv, plus stream media wirelessly or thru a flash drive or portable hard drive and of course on cd's and dvd'd. a stand alone blu-ray player just cant compare.
     
  10. dublin579

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    Thanks BQStudio, sad to hear. Is there a way of changing the aspect ratio of an mkv file before muxing?

    cheers
     
  11. odin24

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    Sure there is a solution. Add the extra lines of resolution (black widescreen bars) by recoding the video, with eith MeGUI/AviSynth or Ripbot264.

    Here's a good link for what you need to do, there is a download that includes all of the apps and instructions needed.

    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
     
  12. BQSTUDIOS

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    thanks, for the info but , ive heard that takes a really long time. And after spending hours downloading a large mkv file, the last thing i want to do is spend even more hours recoding a video. thats why i love my ps3. No need for recoding. it takes just minutes in ts muxer to make a an avchd folder, or a m2ts file and they come out great.

    But can u post a specific tutorial showing exactly how to do what u suggested. and any info on how long you think it will take. tahnks again
     
  13. odin24

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    There's pretty detailed instructions in the download I mentioned, also a lot of instruction, tips, and other good information in the thread I linked.

    A 720p recode could take up to 6 hours on a quad core, maybe 8 hours on a dual core. A 1080p might take 10-12 hours on a quad core.
     
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    well thanks for trying to help, but like you said, there's "a lot of instructions", but no specific tutorial on just changing the aspect ratio.
     
  15. odin24

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    Dude, I'm not mommy or daddy... I'm not going to do everything for you. Do some reaserch and figure some things out for your self, a little trial and error, it's how the majority of us learned. I even pointed you in the right direction telling you everything you need and a good tutorial that comes with it. Do you need me to hold your hand as well. Even the thread has detailed instruction on how to resize.

    Page 17 of the .pdf file in the download deals with resizing.
     
  16. BQSTUDIOS

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    jeeeeeeze. i Hope one day u get lost somehwere on the read, and ask someone where the highway is. and instead of them telling you exactly how to get there,(cause you really are lost) they just vaguley point you in the direction and tell, "good luck". now leave me alone. lol.

    well anyone for anyone who's interested here's the supposed info we need to get this problem fixed. ummmm good luck. lol



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    not progressive, you should make a note of that, as well. It will be corrected during encoding. Run MeGUI and take a look at the main window. MeGUI is an interface for countless command‐line rograms. While not as easy to use as a commercial application, it is vastly more powerful because it ponents you watailor
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    allows you to use the specific comnt to the results exactly to your needs. Notice that there are two panes, Video encoding and Audio. Because MeGUI can command just about any type of encoder, it is capable of processing audio files, but we will only be using it for video at this time. lso notice that the
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    Video encoding pane offers no way to indicate where your source file is. This is because it operates through AviSynth, which requires a set of instructions, called a script, to operate. Don’t worry if you don’t know how to write a script, as there is a handy tool that will do most of the work for you. With this guide, you can easily tweak the script to suit your purposes.

    and i think theres more....... i give up
     
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    I'm pleased to report SUCCESS!!! This double image has been killing me and I was on the verge of selling the BDP-350...but this thread really saved me!

    Following BQStudios heads up about the resolution and Odin24's suggestion of Ripbot264, I now have playable movies. Per the instructions, I installed Ripbot...that program is *really* user friendly. After adding the MKV file, I clicked the Video Properties, which brought up options for Picture Size. I used the pre-set option for 1280x720 (my original movie was 1280x533). It took 5 hours total for the encoding to complete.

    The resulting MKV file was perfect! After a quick spin on TSMuxer and ImgBurn, I'm a happy camper. Further tries were just as successful. Ripbot basically gave me the black lines on top/bottom to make the proper resolution. Video was not stretched or distorted.

    I read somewhere on AfterDawn that these are early days for HD and we are the pioneers. That is so true! It took time to get this right, but now it's awesome! Good luck to everyone and I hope your copies turn out flawless. THANKS!!
     
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    Oh fantastic! That's great news :) Will give it a try now
     
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    great news. i will give that a try myself. glad i was able to help somewhat, and now you helped me out , so thats really cool. 1
     
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    If this is on another thread...let me know! Now that I've licked the double-image problem, I'm hoping to find the best quality video settings on Ripbot. I've been using the default settings and video quality seems close to the original, but not 100% exact and I'm losing alittle on the file size.

    I know that's an easy fix on the quality settings...was hoping someone had cracked it! If I find in the next few days I'll post. THANKS!!
     

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